Pittsburgh Diocese Wins Delay Against Affordable Care Act

PITTSBURGH (KDKA) ^ | November 21, 2013 | PITTSBURGH (KDKA)

[Just mythoughts]

I know the position from Rome. The Church wants to take care of people. Where does ‘Rome’ say that Obamacare is the end all and be all? Don’t support them - that is your privilege. The majority of the Catholic Church does not. Why are you acquiescing?

Let us cut to the chase. Universal healthcare is socialized medicine. That is what Rome supports and calls for globally. And universal healthcare/socialized medicine has been the shove and push by Catholic politicians like Saint Teddy Kennedy.

Before this abomination was passed, where were these bellyaching bishops demanding the bill be read before it was made law?

Before this abomination was passed no person could be denied healthcare. Ever visited an emergency room?

I do not believe you can speak for the majority. Where is their national outrage?

I have spent the past 30 + years dealing with the practice of using the 'guilt' factor to get ones own way. I can sense that method of operation miles away.

I acquiesce nothing, and refuse to be made the 'guilty' because I am NOT 'feeling' sympathy for those whose sole concern is about their own personal religious freedom.

There is no qualm regarding taxation/mandates without representation.... So stealing is quite acceptable so long as the thefts do not fund contraceptives.... And I know personally that while it maybe be doctrine out of Rome, the Catholics I have interacted with these past 30 + years do not consider any form of contraceptive a sin that cannot be confessed. Then 'hail Mary' and count some beads, no big deal, get up the next day and repeat.

Christ said you break one Commandment you break them all... Stealing is still one of those commandments regardless what the religious leaders ignore.

[Salvation]

We win some, we lose some, some are a draw.

[redleghunter]

A federal judge in western Pennsylvania says Catholic groups don’t immediately have to comply with mandates in the federal health care overhaul law.

With Harry Reid using the "nuclear option" to allow Obama to make sweeping judicial nominations, all these appeals will get nixed or go to the SCOTUS. The SCOTUS record on moral issues is horrible. Yes, keep up the fight but the PAGAN noose is getting tighter. This mandate going to the SCOTUS eventually will be the test of that bench. Mostly GOP nominees on that SCOTUS bench.

[MarkBsnr]

The Catholic Church has since its creation by Jesus, has taken care of the poor and the sick. Some of the bishops (in the East, they beat the bad bishops with sticks in the streets) have fallen for the line that government should support and then bear a large share of this type of aid.

The aging liberals are dying off. Our new pastor is young, with a long fluffy beard (almost Orthodox looking) and has implemented a KofC council almost immmediately. He says the Latin Mass. There are a bunch of bad Catholics, to be sure, but there are a whole bunch of bad Baptists (hi there Westboro), Presbyterians (hi there PCUSA) and the Anglicans are seemingly vieing with each other to see who can become more pagan more quickly.

I will give you the example of true Catholic practice. In Peoria, on the west side of I-74 is the Methodist hospital. When charity cases arrive at the ER, they put them in a taxi and send them to the east side of I-74 to the Catholic hospital.

That is the majority.

That is Catholicism in practice.

Don’t worry. Those of us who are not liberal are working for and watching the evoluation of the clerical leadership back from the Marxist nonsense of the aftermatch of Vatican II. My bishop knows me all too well. We’ve had it out. In public. In front of the TV cameras.

I don’t play abortion, or any big government power grab such as national health care. Neither do most faithful Catholis.