Televangelist Paul Crouch dies

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[Morgana]

COSTA MESA, Calif. — Paul Crouch, the televangelist who built what's been called the world's largest Christian broadcasting network, has died. He was 79.

Crouch died at his home in California on Saturday after a decade-long fight with degenerative heart disease, his grandson, Brandon Crouch, told The Associated Press.

"He was an incredible businessman, entrepreneur, visionary; he built something that impacted the world," he said.

Trinity Broadcast Network had reported that Crouch fell ill and was taken to a hospital in October while visiting the network's facility in Colleyville, Texas. He later returned to California for continued treatment of "heart and related health issues."

[Mrs. Don-o]

What....

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What IS that?????

[Gamecock]

Nothing to see here.

Just some heretic taking Granny’s money.

[Mrs. Don-o]

2 Peter 1:4
He has granted to us his precious and very great promises, that through these you may escape from the corruption that is in the world because of passion, and become partakers of the divine nature.

Interpreted one way, it could have a heretical meaning. Interpreted St.Peter's way, it does not have a heretical meaning, but a profoundly true and precious one.

Trust me, Catholics go with St Peter on this.

But (sincere question) how do you interpret this Scripture?

[metmom]

That’s just photoshopped.

A little bit, obviously.

[smvoice]

THAT is The Tammy Faye Baker/Jan Crouch Big Hairllelulah, AKA: THE HAIRWAY TO HEAVEN.

[metmom]

Becoming partakers of the divine nature is not becoming the divine nature.

We do not become God.

We have a beginning, God does not.

John 1:12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,

NOt the right to become God.

[metmom]

By FLDS standards, she must be REALLY holy!!!!

[Mrs. Don-o]

2 Peter 1:4
He has granted to us his precious and very great promises, that through these you may escape from the corruption that is in the world because of passion, and become partakers of the divine nature.

Interpreted incorrectly, it would have a heretical meaning. (That's a tautology, folks.) But interpreted as St. Peter intended, it does not have a heretical meaning, but a "precious and very great" one.

Trust me, Catholics go with St. Peter on this.

But (sincere question) I'm sure you don't just ignore these promises. That being the case, how do you interpret this Scripture?

I'm not looking for polemics here. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if I could learn something valuable from your perspective.

[metmom]

You know. There just might really be pretty women under all that.

There’s just no way of knowing.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Oh! I didn't know whether it was photoshopped, or a self-parody.

[smvoice]

You know what they say, the higher the hair, the closer to heaven...

[smvoice]

lol! No..unfortunately she did not realize the parody she was creating. “Higher, Mr. Rex, HIGHER..”

[Elsie]

I thank you Lord that I’m not like that Publican over there!

[Elsie]

The man built an empire over 40 years reaching over 1 billion people; do you think such an endeavor is possible without God’s favor?

Well... there's that Mohamed fellow and a more recent one; too.

[Elsie]

I think these guys might be guilty of some personality disorders but they seemed to be okay on the majors just off on a lot of minors.

Who ain't???

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I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said, "Stop! Don't do it!"

"Why shouldn't I?" he said.

 

I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!"

He said, "Like what?"

 

I said, "Well...are you religious or atheist?"

He said, "Religious."

 

I said, "Me too! Are you Christian or Buddhist?"

He said, "Christian."

 

I said, "Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?"

He said, "Protestant."

 

I said, "Me too! Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?"

He said, "Baptist!"

 

I said,"Wow! Me too! Are you Baptist Church of GOD or Baptist Church of the Lord?"

He said, "Baptist Church of GOD!"

 

I said, "Me too! Are you Original Baptist Church of GOD, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of GOD?"

He said,"Reformed Baptist Church of GOD!"

 

I said, "Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of GOD, reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of GOD, reformation of 1915?"

He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of GOD, reformation of 1915!"

 

I said, "Die, heretic scum", and pushed him off.

-- Emo Phillips

[Elsie]

Too many people are depending on experience and using that to measure Scripture instead of using Scripture to measure their experience.

Seems so.

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More folks would rather be praised into Hell; than rebuked into Heaven.

[Elsie]

The Catholic Church and Mormons also teach that “we are god” or will become gods.

I don't know about the RCC, but LDS, Inc. has it in WRITING!!!

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The Doctrine and Covenants

 

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.

1–6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7–14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15–20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21–25, The strait and narrow way leads to eternal lives; 26–27, The law is given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28–39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation are made to prophets and Saints in all ages; 40–47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48–50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

 

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 16Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in ^amarriage; but are appointed angels in ^bheaven, which angels are ministering ^cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.

 17For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are ^aangels of God forever and ever.

 18And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that ^acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.

 19And again, verily I say unto you, if a man ^amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and ^beverlasting covenant, and it is ^csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of ^dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ^ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit ^fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s ^gBook of Life, that he shall commit no ^hmurder whereby to shed innocent ⁱblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their ^jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the ^kseeds forever and ever.

 20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from ^aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be ^bgods, because they have ^call power, and the angels are subject unto them.

 21Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my ^alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.

 22For ^astrait is the gate, and narrow the ^bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the ^clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.

 23But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that ^awhere I am ye shall be also.

 24This is ^aeternal lives—to ^bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath ^csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.

 25^aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the ^bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they ^creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.

[Elsie]

I stand corrected!

[Elsie]

MORMONs are being mentioned...

[fortheDeclaration]

I think when you follow the world's methods it is very much without God's favor!

What Gospel did TBN preach?