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Vladimir Putin claims Russia is moral compass of the world
The Telegraph ^ | 12 December 2013 | Damien McElroy

Posted on 12/12/2013 10:08:57 AM PST by AnalogReigns

Vladimir Putin sought to cast Russia as the moral arbiter of the world on Thursday, as he hit out at America’s “non-traditional values” and its influence across the world. In an annual state of the nation address, the 61-year-old Russian president said his country did not aspire to be “some kind of superpower”. “We do not infringe on anyone’s interests, we do not force our patronage on anyone, or try to teach anyone how to live,” he said. His comments amounted to an oblique rebuttal to the growing international movement against Russia’s restrictive laws on homosexuality. ... Mr Putin defended his government’s increasingly conservative values and decried the “review of norms of morality” in the West and elsewhere.

“This destruction of traditional values from above not only entails negative consequences for society, but is also inherently anti-democratic because it is based on an abstract notion and runs counter to the will of the majority of people,” Mr Putin said, adding there could be no benefit for society for treating “good and evil” equally. In his 70-minute televised speech from an ornate Kremlin hall, Mr Putin said traditional family values where a bulwark against “so-called tolerance – genderless and infertile.” Critics of the speech were quick to point that post-Soviet Russia has seen a deep and damaging decline in its birth rates to among the lowest of any developed nation....

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Orthodox Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: corruption; morality; putin; russia; traditionalvalues; vladimirputin
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To: Therapsid
Whites are not allowed a strong white male icon..its part of the accentuated diversity plan.

Valid point, fits the Negro agenda, the homosexual agenda, the Femanazi agenda, the intellectual educational agenda, the socialist agenda, the third world agenda, yeah, I can see why the world hates Putin, why, if he wasn't a Communist, think of the trouble he could cause.

21 posted on 12/12/2013 11:18:55 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: NormsRevenge

More Christian than the SCOTUS and the ACLU.


22 posted on 12/12/2013 11:24:46 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: AnalogReigns

Nazi felt superior as a traditional ueber race, Leninists because they fantasized about being a progressed advance race, but we Americans because we are gay...

Putin is ridiculing the West.


23 posted on 12/12/2013 11:45:42 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: AnalogReigns

“Moral compass of the world” might be, ahem, a bit grandiose on Putin’s part, but America certainly seems to be in a mad dash to be the moral cesspit of the world.

The way America is diving headlong into depravity and evil, it does make for a startling reversal of the old dichotomy of the cold war days. Putin at least seems quite cognizant of taking his country in the direction of long-term survival, while America sinks down the rat-hole of perversion and dysfunction. Never would have predicted it a few short years ago, but it does now look likely that Russia will outlast America.


24 posted on 12/12/2013 12:09:16 PM PST by greene66
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To: AnalogReigns

I don,t know if they are or not but at least they don,t have a president that supports same sex marriage.


25 posted on 12/12/2013 12:09:55 PM PST by ravenwolf
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To: AnalogReigns
I never thought that I would see the day that KGB colonel Vlad Putin would lecture us on capitalism and morality.

The world is truly up side down.

5.56mm

26 posted on 12/12/2013 12:26:06 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Darteaus94025

U.S. going the way of Gomorrah. Sad.


27 posted on 12/12/2013 12:46:37 PM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: AnalogReigns

Obama and his policies are making it very easy for Putin to claim this.


28 posted on 12/12/2013 1:53:01 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: usurper

Agreed!!


29 posted on 12/12/2013 2:15:32 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: M Kehoe

It’s primarily “upside down” because of the downside this country has elected.


30 posted on 12/12/2013 2:18:02 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Theoria

“Just like Iran has no queers.”


Yeah. A real phenomenon.


31 posted on 12/12/2013 4:19:33 PM PST by ourworldawry
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To: AnalogReigns
We do not infringe on anyone’s interests

KGB Putin's revanchist Neo-Soviet Russia invaded the nation of Georgia and ethnically cleansed thousands of innocent Christian civilians. Putin is a genocidal mass-murderer of women and children. Putin does not think the extermination of Georgians is infringing on "anyone" because he does not consider Georgians to be human beings.

Putin has no morality and he serves his master Satan the Devil.

32 posted on 12/12/2013 7:26:48 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: AnalogReigns

33 posted on 12/12/2013 7:40:21 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: M Kehoe

Upside down and inside out.


34 posted on 12/12/2013 7:43:31 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: AnalogReigns

Why doesn’t he admit that much of the subversion of the west into a sewer is Russia’s fault???


35 posted on 12/12/2013 8:02:18 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: AnalogReigns
"Vladimir Putin claims Russia is moral compass of the world"

Add that to the obama legasy.
36 posted on 12/13/2013 6:55:47 AM PST by clearcarbon
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To: greene66
“Moral compass of the world” might be, ahem, a bit grandiose on Putin’s part, but America certainly seems to be in a mad dash to be the moral cesspit of the world. The way America is diving headlong into depravity and evil, it does make for a startling reversal of the old dichotomy of the cold war days. Putin at least seems quite cognizant of taking his country in the direction of long-term survival, while America sinks down the rat-hole of perversion and dysfunction. Never would have predicted it a few short years ago, but it does now look likely that Russia will outlast America.

Best comment yet, but Russia has more crimes in its past.

37 posted on 12/13/2013 8:24:28 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: M Kehoe
I never thought that I would see the day that KGB colonel Vlad Putin would lecture us on capitalism and morality. The world is truly up side down. Indeed, even if his ethos is rather selective.
38 posted on 12/13/2013 8:25:16 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Viennacon

According to this Russia’s abortion rate has declined steeply from the unreal numbers in the early 90’s. But I still think it is high as compared to the US. There where around 42 abortions per 100 live births in 2012 Russia, in 2003 USA there were 24 from what I have found, which supports your idea. It could be that they are just using better birth control now, I suppose. Does anyone know if there is an official Russian Orthodox position on birth control within marriage? I have heard different things from posters on here before.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2013/02/09/are-there-really-13-abortions-for-every-10-live-births-in-russia/

“So, in 2012 there were about 42 abortions per 100 live births, not 130. The last time the number of abortions exceeded the number of births by 30% or more was in 2002. Additionally, rather than representing “the most grisly statistic the world has ever seen,” an abortion rate 30% larger than the birth rate was actually a huge improvement from rates that prevailed in the early 1990s”

According to this, there was a peak of something like 280 abortions per 100 live births in the early 90’s.

Freegards


39 posted on 12/13/2013 8:42:50 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

It’s a little less centralized than the Vatican, so I’m not pulling anything up on just a quick search. There are pages on just general Orthodox tenets, Greek in particular, which condemn abortion as a grave sin.

Here is a good link though. I doubt this man would say such things without the consent of the church at large.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/russian-orthodox-spokesman-abortion-is-the-most-terrible-holocaust-in-human/

“I am glad that there are representatives of different generations, social strata and spiritually ready to stand up for Holy Russia. Orthodoxy - not only prayer but also a civil action, as mentioned by Patriarch Kirill - we need to pray, think and act, to live in [a] Russia where abortion is morally unacceptable,” Fr. Chaplin said.

Like you say, Russia still has a real problem with abortion, but it is trying to improve. They need to, or they are in real demographic trouble. If memory serves, the woman who introduced the homosexual propaganda law is now trying to introduce legislation similar to Texas’, where they put medical restrictions on clinics


40 posted on 12/13/2013 9:03:39 PM PST by Viennacon
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