Posted on 12/15/2013 9:14:52 AM PST by NYer
..the Pope is the one who said Marxists were nice...
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I don’t think that is precisely what the Pope said. ;-/
He is calling for the use of force, the gun, to rob citizens in order to support criminals in their midst. Maybe next he will declare these criminal invaders have the right to take our homes away from us?
...he criticized the very system that has lifted more people out of poverty than any other...
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Again, you are not conveying precisely what the Pope said.
.....I can’t go along with the infalibility doctrine on this one.....
This statement had nothing (NADA) to do with an infallible statement (which, by the way, RARELY occurs).
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I understand. This was an interview, and I would be surprised if the doctrine of infallibility applies.
I didn’t see that in this article. ?
Yes, that is my understanding as well, although I confess that the doctrine of infallibility is a complicated one.
True, but some people seem to ascribe infallibility to his statements…in a general sense anyway.
And I have yet to see anyone convey anything different….they just claim that he is being taken out of context. What? Like Jeremiah Wright was?
oh, you are so right. What the Pope said was actually a much stronger endorsement of Marxists, calling them GOOD and not merely nice. Check out the article…..and thanks for clearing that up for us. I undersold what the Pope said about Marxists.
Christmas is joy, religious joy, God’s joy, an inner joy of light and peace. When you are unable or in a human situation that does not allow you to comprehend this joy, then one experiences this feast with a worldly joyfulness. But there is a difference between profound joy and worldly joyfulness.”
Very beautiful and true! Will read the rest in a bit. It's amazing how the press (and etc) want to make him say things he didn't say.
So I can say: You know why, I don’t and You won’t tell me, but You’re looking at me and I trust You, Lord, I trust your gaze.”
It sounded to me as though he does not get insulted very easily...
It also sounds as though the “Nice Marxists” are private individuals he has met.
I am sure you are right about both of your points….but allow me to clarify: he called them “good” and not merely “nice” - (I mistook that in my first post) -
And I stand by the contention that there cannot by definition be a “good” Marxist. Just not possible.
They may be “pleasant” - as some think our marxist president is - and they may even act nice - but they absolutely cannot be good….as in God is great and God is good. Marxists are not good.
And I think the Pope should know that frankly.
It’s so wonderful to see you, lj! Merry Christmas!
Is the “Good Marxist” screen handle still available on FR?
Where did you learn to read? He did not say that.
....It also sounds as though the “Nice Marxists” are private individuals he has met.....
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You have obviously learned how to read well. ;-)
Sound familiar? "Jesus, I trust in you!" - St. Faustina.
Read the rest...”he should stick to Christianity and stay out of the political arena”
The ideology that has claimed over a hundred million dead in the 20th century has adherents that are 'good people'? That quote was in there as well. No misquote, the Pope didn't walk it back at all. Now one must be ignorant of reality or a very poor judge of people.
Do you hate Catholics? Hate the Catholic Church?
No I hate marxism and promoters of the same.
I disagree. There are private persons who are Marxists who are pie in the sky idealists. They have good intentions but blind to the reality.
Hopefully most of those will wake up.
Not saying there are billions of this kind but there are some.
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