Posted on 12/17/2013 3:14:49 PM PST by Colofornian
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December 12, 2005 photo of the Joseph Smith nativity scene in the main lobby of the BYU administration building. The caption under Smith's image is enlarged in the upper right hand corner. In the crib is a doll representing baby Joseph Smith.
Even this month, one Lds poster known as "JK Williams" commented on MormonDialogue.org: Smithmas...: "As I recall, BYU had a sort of 'Joseph Smith Manger scene set up that Christmas season, which to me was a bit unseemly"
Oh, and the Lds Church also offers 'Smithmas' in July!
Author Ed Decker relates the following as occurring July 29, 1990:
During a Capstone conference a conference in which Christians are trained in witnessing to Mormons one Sunday morning finds Hank Hanegraaff and Ed Decker walking "through Temple Square while we had some time before Hank caught a flight back to Los Angeles. As we walked through the North Visitor Center, we were amazed. That building housed the many displays dealing with the 'restoration of the gospel.' Yet, every single thing that dealt with the restoration story and Joseph Smith had been removed from public view...The South Visitor Center displayed...a picture of Jesus, under which was a statement from LDS scripture with a heading something like 'Jesus Testifies of Joseph Smith.'"
Source: Ed Decker, Decker's Complete Handbook on Mormonism, Harvest House, 1995, pp. 340-341
Ah, nothing like even more roles reversals in Mormonism!
VERY LATE in his life, Joseph Smith boasted:
I have more to boast of THAN EVER ANY MAN had. I am THE ONLY MAN THAT HAS EVER been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam...Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet. (History of The Church, 6:408409) Mormons do love their Joseph Smith ...
Here's all seven volumes of History of the Church, compiled by Lds Church Seventy B.H. Roberts, in case you want to view them...BYU Studies: History of the Church [NOTE: For the above quote in full context, click on "Volume 6" and then click on the bullet point reading Charges Against President Smith Before the Circuit Court-His Voluntary Appearances at Court-Treatment-Return to Nauvoo.]
* Can also be downloaded here: History of the Church
You are just trashin’ them because you didn’t like the luke warm coffee they served you, last time you attended Smithmas.
C’mon - fess up!
;-)
Hah. I hope there was a very special warmish place for him to cogitate his sin of pride/arrogance. It IS one of the seven deadlies and it had to be PRETTY big for it to go down into history so some FReepers could know all about it.
WARNING!!!
Christian Bashing Thread
Which Christians are being bashed here? Mormons have taken great care to distance themselves from the Christian faith and I take them at their word.
It’s a hit and run artist. Truthseeking or debate is above its pay grade.
Tepid coffee? Barbarians. Juan Valdez should blood atone ‘em.
Mormons don’t want the truth to be revealed on FR or anywhere else — even well-documented truth.
I don’t feel a mission to convert mormons, just informing people who might be misled. I was 2nd gen born into the lds.
People can believe whattever they choose, but the standard mormon con job is “we’re Christian just like you” they don’t tell you the occult stuff until later because of the “milk before meat” principle of indoctrination and they explain their mistruths by the “lying for the Lord” belief. All these aphorisms for mormon tactics are well known and are all wiki-searchable for more details on the mormon reasoning behind such beliefs.
In all honesty, people, doesn’t it ring a TINY little alarm bell in your mind when the JHVH of Judeo-Christian belief demands PRAISE from those in his service, and the polytheisthic, once a man like you, always changing his mind “god” of mormon worship demands LIES from obedient members?
In the end Joseph Smith created a cult that worshipped only what came out of the inner twistings of his own mind, and by the fruit of his “church” you know the source of mormon belief. And LIES are the fruit of this tree.
Mormons are lovely people. My most positive feelings of being lds were as a child, feeling like I had a huge family. But as soon as I understood enough to question, it was a very fast transition from being part of a family to being demon possessed, sexually sinful, anti-mormon, all their words.
Funny story, my first flames of rebellion: I was a young member of the Aaronic priesthood and our Sunday school teacher introduced an elderly member of the Melchizedeks who began to introduce us to the concept of becoming glorified like God and as mormon gods creating our own worlds, people to populate them and worship you.
I replied, in total innocence, that if I created a world I didn’t need people to worship me, I would make it a giant hunting and fishing preserve for myself, hang up a hammock and take it easy.
From the old Melchizedek priest turning scarlet and storming out of the class, and the frightened looks of my teacher and classmates, I knew I had said something very, very wrong...
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