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To: ReformationFan
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)

It's actually amazing how many so-called believers conveniently forget sex-before-marriage is as deadly a sin as homosexuality, per the Bible. I'd wager the percentage of adults in America meeting the stipulation to be in the single digits.

31 posted on 01/01/2014 9:45:11 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett

What percentage of atheist Australians would you wager to meet the stipulation? Zero?


33 posted on 01/01/2014 9:49:21 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: James C. Bennett

True. But Christ came to heal the sick: fornicators, homosexuals, adulterers, murderers, prostitutes, etc. I think this is the other part of the equation that Pope Francis is now emphasizing.

Douay-Rheims Bible

“But before all things have a constant mutual charity among yourselves: for charity covereth a multitude of sins.”


34 posted on 01/01/2014 10:23:00 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: James C. Bennett
"It's actually amazing how many so-called believers conveniently forget sex-before-marriage is as deadly a sin as homosexuality, per the Bible. I'd wager the percentage of adults in America meeting the stipulation to be in the single digits."

Hard to argue with that, and I among the offenders. Perhaps that is among the reasons why Christian witness against homosexuality is so weak and ineffective.
36 posted on 01/01/2014 10:44:08 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: James C. Bennett

I would argue that the acceptance of pre-marital sex in our society via contraception and other aspects of the so-called “Sex Positive Agenda” in previous generations helped greatly to pave the way for the mass acceptance of homosexual behavior today.

To paraphrase Reformed pastor/author Douglas Wilson, the call for redefining marriage as a “gender-neutral” institution is the sign of the end of society’s fall into sexual perversion, not the beginning of it.


49 posted on 01/02/2014 3:57:14 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: James C. Bennett; ReformationFan
Well, you're onto something there, James.

It's been about the deconstruction of sex, gender, marriage and family -- from Day One.

And when or what was Day One? By my observation, it was at least 50 years ago, kicking off the process of stripping marriage of its essential components as a unique, fertile, faithful, permanent sacred union.

By 50 years ago, it was

Does that about cover it?

The whole thing has been deconstructed starting about 50 or years ago. It was not done by the small proportion of the population called "gay," it was done by almost everyone. And we're not at the start of the demolition. We're at the finish.

51 posted on 01/02/2014 5:21:39 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" - Jeremiah 17:9)
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To: James C. Bennett
It's actually amazing how many so-called believers conveniently forget sex-before-marriage is as deadly a sin as homosexuality, per the Bible. I'd wager the percentage of adults in America meeting the stipulation to be in the single digits.

I would say that the 'conveniently forget' observation you make is partly premised in your being indoctrinated somewhat by the moral relative arguments used by those promoting the homosexual agenda by arguing that it is just another sin. HOWEVER, premise and context are quite important.

As to PREMISE, Government is not in the business of either promoting or condemning sin nor salvation. Legitimately, government protects people & property as well as promoting social order & the common good. It is only when sin meets the limited criteria that government operates authoritatively within that government legitimately acts; for example, the case of murder. Government never did promote marriage because it was promoting love or for that matter opposing the sins of fornication or adultery. It was always about social order (raising children) & the common good (creating children)

As to CONTEXT, as an example, when was the last time you heard of an adultery or fornication parade? When has any legislation promoting equality for adulterers been proposed? What about marriage equality for bigamists?

ONLY sins that are actions (NOT feelings or thoughts) can be judged & discriminated against by others and out of that group there are but a few that limited government can legitimately act upon. However, the homosexual agenda is premised falsely upon propaganda that actions and a state of being are one and the same thing and that discriminating against an activity is tantamount to discriminating against a member of a minority known as the 'gay species'. The terms 'homophobia' and 'gay' come form the same place 'climate change' and 'global warming' come from - delusional thought & fabricated propaganda. as a result of the leftist push 'forward' what we see today is a government illegitimately acting to supposedly legislate against the sin of 'hate' or as the left has coined it 'homophobia' (AKA legitimate discrimination against homosexual activity) while at the same time the government illegitimately promotes 'love' as a basis for 'homosexual marriage'.

True Conservatism is not a fiscal only enterprise, a true conservative understands that the Constitution which limits government limits it fiscally and socially... Today, as far as the social issues, the government is in my opinion more out of control than it is fiscally. I would suggest that the out of control fiscal problems are a result of the out of control social engineering government does.

55 posted on 01/02/2014 9:49:49 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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