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Swiss Guard Claims Vatican Official Made Sexual Advances to Him
The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 1/6/14 | Nick Squires

Posted on 01/06/2014 7:20:14 PM PST by marshmallow

Cardinals, bishops and other clergy made sexual advances towards a member of the Swiss Guard, it has been claimed A former Swiss Guard has claimed that he received sexual advances from cardinals, bishops and other clergy while serving in the elite corps, the Pope's personal bodyguard.

The ex-soldier claimed that he received 20 to 25 explicit sexual advances, including on one occasion from a cardinal who invited him up to his rooms in the Vatican.

The former Swiss Guard, who insisted on remaining anonymous, made the allegations to a Swiss newspaper, Schweiz am Sonntag, which published them on its front page on Sunday.

The unnamed soldier served in the Swiss Guard during the papacy of John Paul II, which lasted from 1978 until 2005, and it was not clear why he had only now decided to come forward with the claims.

"One night, sometime after midnight, I received a call on my mobile phone. The person on the other end said he was a cardinal and asked me to come to his room," he said.

The former Guard also claimed that he had received advances from a member of the Secretariat of State, one of the Vatican's most powerful departments.

The clergyman who approached him was later transferred from his post, the former soldier said.

He said that he reported the unsolicited attention to his superiors but was accused of misunderstanding conversations as a result of his purportedly poor Italian.

Urs Moser, a spokesman for the corps, told the Swiss paper: "Rumours of a gay network inside the Vatican are not our problem. Our men concern themselves purely with religious and military matters."

There have been long-standing suspicions that many Catholic clergy in the Vatican are gay, despite the Church's strict teaching that the act of homosexual sex is........

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To: notaliberal

You think we military oriented freepers don’t like learning about duty at the Vatican?


21 posted on 01/06/2014 8:11:02 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: marshmallow
"Who am I to judge?"

23 posted on 01/06/2014 8:31:18 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: marshmallow

Clericalism. Clericalism is the problem, I tell ya. Clericalism and too much rule following. And devotion to the Latin mass. Clericalism, rule following, and devotion to the Latin mass. Those are the problems with the Church.


24 posted on 01/06/2014 8:34:13 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

And obsession with abortion. Clericalism, rule following, devotion to the Latin mass, and obsession with abortion. Other than that, who am I to judge?


25 posted on 01/06/2014 8:37:40 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: yarddog
Hamlet: Act IV, Scene V: "Where are my Switzers? Let them guard the door."

The Swiss Guard is the Seal Team 6 of Guarding. Its always been that way.

26 posted on 01/06/2014 8:58:29 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: yarddog

> guards from other countries too

i suspect this has to do with it..


27 posted on 01/06/2014 9:07:37 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: EEGator

Why do they dress them up like clowns or something out of Alice in Wonderland???


28 posted on 01/06/2014 9:52:25 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool
Why do they dress them up like clowns or something out of Alice in Wonderland???

Never heard of the TV show Queer Eye for the Straight Guy? This is the inspiration for that show!

29 posted on 01/06/2014 10:46:24 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: AlaskaErik
Never heard of the TV show Queer Eye for the Straight Guy? This is the inspiration for that show!

I do vaguely remember the title...I wouldn't have gone any where near it...

30 posted on 01/07/2014 5:38:24 AM PST by Iscool
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To: yarddog

As you’ve probably learned by now (judging from some of the posts following), they’re well armed—Sigs, Glocks, among other lethals and the sword they know how to use, sprays, with with almost instant access to much heavier firepower. Those uniforms are deceiving, plenty of room for concealment. And besides armed & unarmed combat skills, each one of them learns at least one additional language to his native French/German/Italian, usually two or three. Someone said they were like Seals. True—but with Secret Service aspects and certain “Third Order” religious duties.


31 posted on 01/07/2014 7:45:27 AM PST by Mach9
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To: Jeff Chandler
"Who am I to judge?"

If you are part of the church, you are supposed to judge those within the church.

"I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person. For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.” 1Cor 5:9-13

32 posted on 01/07/2014 9:24:24 AM PST by aimhigh
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