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Sad situation. Prayers up.
1 posted on 01/09/2014 8:21:13 AM PST by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

she needs to take solace in the fact that her siblings are basking in th elove of our Lord and she will eventually be united with them. but in the meantime, she needs to live her life and live God’s intent for her.

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2 posted on 01/09/2014 8:27:52 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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I was one of three embryos created in the process, but I was the only one who survived.

What does she mean by this, that she is the only embryo that "took," or that the mother went through a pregnancy "reduction"?

3 posted on 01/09/2014 8:31:28 AM PST by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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The only one who survived - was that because all three were given a chance and only one made it? Or was it because her parents got her and discarded the rest?

It makes a difference in my mind, the intent of the parents.

I lost three children before birth and I mourn them and my family remembers them. But I probably had three or four very early miscarriages as well (a week late and heavy when I was trying to conceive) although I don’t know for sure. It was more disappointment than grief. God can carry the knowledge for me and I wouldn’t burden my children with an obligation to mourn. The difference with IVF is that you can’t escape the knowledge.

Prayers for this young lady - I think she must be a very lonely only child.


5 posted on 01/09/2014 8:39:53 AM PST by heartwood
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Facts please. There is a huge difference between embryos which are non euploid not continuing to grow, and aborting extra growing babies.

Did her parents “selectively reduce” the other two? Abort them? Then the young woman has a right to mourn.

But if the doc placed three embryos into her mom’s uterus, and she was the only one who continued to grow, that is nature. Well over 50% of all embryos created in lab or Fallopian tube DO NOT MAKE IT. Young couples having lots of unprotected sex do not get pregnant each month. And of those who do, many embryos don’t make it even to the pregnancy test and some don’t make it to week 13. Almost all of these early miscarriages are caused by chromosome abnormalities that would never allow even a second trimester baby.

That is a huge difference. There are probably lots of people conceived naturally who had a fraternal twin for a day or a couple weeks and never knew it.


6 posted on 01/09/2014 8:40:13 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: GonzoII
There may be an answer for her in one of these links:

Cry for Help from Young Woman Conceived with IVF
Why the Church Opposes Surrogate Motherhood and attempts to legalize it in The District of Columbia
Pregnancy From Sperm Frozen 40 Years Ago Highlights Problems With IVF (with a twist)
Former IVF doc [Anthony Caruso]: my conversion began when confronted by a priest
Teacher says Catholic school fired her over IVF
Teacher Claims Catholic School Fired Her Over IVF
Pope says arrogance drives infertility field, tells couples to shun artificial procreation Man Made Limbo (the consequences of IVF)

IVF babies ‘risk major diseases’
Polish Cardinal, Former Secretary to Pope JPII: Politicians, Like Pilate, Kill the Truth of the Life of the Unborn
Bishop criticizes reproductive technology’s ‘procreation without sex’
Dignitas Personae
Excommunication for deliberate embryo destruction?
Catholic School Teacher Fired for Having In Vitro
Vatican Summit Looks at Selecting Embryos
62-year-old Redding woman gives birth to 12th child
Actress Brooke Shields kills 140 of her very own Children by undergoing 7 IVF Treatments
Clinic Mix-Up Sparks Fears over IVF H

8 posted on 01/09/2014 8:45:36 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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I would recommend two ministries:

First: Beginning Experience, a peer facilitated weekend for those who are grieving the loss of a loved one

Secondly: Rachel's Vineyard.

9 posted on 01/09/2014 8:48:22 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Sorry, but this needs a vomit alert tag.

Does she mourn the loss of every egg that is discarded through menses?

The Monty Python tune ‘Every Sperm is Sacred’ comes to mind.

This woman takes ‘glass half empty’ to a new and dangerous extreme.

IVF survivor remorse? Really?


10 posted on 01/09/2014 8:48:22 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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I have no use for any of the crazy scientists are the unGodly things they have come up with.

But i take it that her siblings must have either died at birth or did not get that far.

The way she is trying to make her parents feel guilty you would think the siblings were aborted in the birth stage.

The only thing the parents did wrong was to ignore God and put their faith in the God of this world, which in the other case she would not be here.

Most of us has lost siblings and they will not be forgotten but why bring more torture to some one else who may already be more tortured than you are.


12 posted on 01/09/2014 8:55:23 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: GonzoII
Hmm. I don't know her age but I suspect teenage. There are many assumptions she seems to make:

They don't regret what they did, They very well might, esp. if it was a "selective reduction". Guilt may keep them obstinate.

they'll concede that they are my siblings, but it's only to make me feel better. Not necessarily.

When people asked how many children they had, they'd say three. We have 3 healthy daughters, but lost our first two children (12 week & 24 week miscarriages). But when someone asks how many children I have, I say "3" because lengthy explanations just aren't necessary or, IMO, appropriate.

I'd say this woman needs some spiritual counseling. It isn't healthy to mourn this way for siblings she never knew , despite her beliefs on IVF.

14 posted on 01/09/2014 8:55:29 AM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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It sounds like a ‘selective reduction’ situation. I do not understand why people would do this. Why not wait and see if all three can make it to birth?? Very sad for this girl, the survivor’s guilt is weighing heavily on her.


16 posted on 01/09/2014 8:58:38 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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huh?

I have no idea what lunacy this article is referring too.

When you go through IVF you have the option to use all the embryos created yourself over time, or you can donate the extra embryos to someone who is unable to have children. Nothing necessitates the destruction of viable embryos except a purposeful decision to that effect by the parents.

Heck, they can even freeze the extra embryos and you can have them implanted years later.

This whole article is bunk.

17 posted on 01/09/2014 9:02:56 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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If this were not the Religion forum I’d say what I think about this conflicted person.


18 posted on 01/09/2014 9:05:02 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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I frankly majored in just enough psychology to be dangerous. Still, I think this young woman is in need of some therapy. I don’t believe we are getting the entire story here. Her problem with her parents may be something else entirely.


20 posted on 01/09/2014 9:24:18 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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That’s an unusual variation on ‘survivor guilt’ ...

On the facts of the matter, she’s absolutely correct.


21 posted on 01/09/2014 9:28:22 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: GonzoII

Sounds like a drama queen.


23 posted on 01/09/2014 11:35:47 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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Since she is a Roman Catholic, I would suggest she locates a church with a statue of the Visitation, as Mary and Elizabeth are “go to” saints for these type sorrowful issues, and kneel and pray (before/after Mass) for as long as it takes for relief, if even for months, years, or decades.


24 posted on 01/09/2014 12:11:36 PM PST by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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