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Pope: if we don’t "profess" the faith or trust in God, we become "defeated Christians"...
Asia News ^ | 1/10/2014

Posted on 01/10/2014 3:41:50 AM PST by markomalley

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Full title: Pope: if we don’t "profess" the faith or trust in God, we become "defeated Christians" of which the Church "is full"
1 posted on 01/10/2014 3:41:50 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

We’ve become defeated Christians the moment we started saying that killing children is OK, contraception and homosex is fine, and divorce, and communism, and lying is no big deal, and sending soldiers off to die on suicide missions for political gain, ect.

There are a huge number of things as an amoral/immoral society we’ve allowed because Christianity, which means that Jesus’ mission as to save us from the power of Satan and his minions, is inconsequential to our culture.


2 posted on 01/10/2014 3:53:12 AM PST by Bayard
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To: Bayard

The Pope is correct though. God Bless Pope Francis.


3 posted on 01/10/2014 4:05:49 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Bayard

ALL of us, be professing Christians or not, NEED to repent and believe.


4 posted on 01/10/2014 4:06:57 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl
If Western Civilization is to survive, the Pope must call for another crusade against islam, which has all but conquered Europe and grows like a virus in America. There is little time.
5 posted on 01/10/2014 4:21:16 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V.)
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To: Jacquerie

Better yet, it is much more better that the Gospel of Jesus be preached to ALL. Take a look at the global south, the Christian faith is GROWING by leaps and bounds.

Proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus should be considered the new crusade.


6 posted on 01/10/2014 4:27:11 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: markomalley

What are you trusting Him for?


7 posted on 01/10/2014 9:39:09 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

At least there is a Pope who preaches the Gospel of Jesus.


8 posted on 01/10/2014 11:22:46 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl
At least there is a Pope who preaches the Gospel of Jesus.

Oh, really?

Turning to mutual respect in interreligious relations, especially between Christians and Muslims, we are called to respect the religion of the other, its teachings, its symbols, its values. Pope Francis

"We hold the Jewish people in special regard because their covenant with God has never been revoked, for ‘the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable’ (Rom 11:29). The Church, which shares with Jews an important part of the Sacred Scriptures, looks upon the people of the covenant and their faith as one of the sacred roots of her own Christian identity (cf. Rom 11:16-18). As Christians, we cannot consider Judaism as a foreign religion; nor do we include the Jews among those called to turn from idols and to serve the true God (cf. 1 Thes 1:9). With them, we believe in the one God who acts in history, and with them we accept his revealed word.” Pope Francis

Yes, Virginia, there is salvation outside the Catholic Church!

9 posted on 01/10/2014 4:53:10 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Your opinion and your opinion only.


10 posted on 01/10/2014 5:10:21 PM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: ebb tide

Read the main story. It sure does read like Pope Francis is preaching the Gospel.


11 posted on 01/10/2014 5:14:54 PM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

No kidding?


12 posted on 01/10/2014 5:36:40 PM PST by ebb tide
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“If we Christians believe professing the faith, even safeguarding it, if we are custodians of the faith , and entrust ourselves to God , the Lord , we will be victorious Christians. And this is the victory that has overcome the world: our faith”. Otherwise we would be “half hearted Christians” those “defeated Christians” of which the Church “is full”, said Pope Francis during his homily at Mass this morning at Casa Santa Marta.”

The first paragraph said it best.


13 posted on 01/10/2014 5:38:10 PM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

All I did was quote the Pope. What do you think his opinion is about Jews and muslims in lieu of his words?


14 posted on 01/10/2014 5:39:28 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Biggirl

As opposed to the victorious Muslims and Jews who stick to their own “values” and “covenants”, respectfully?


15 posted on 01/10/2014 5:41:49 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I do not get what you are saying, “victorious Muslims and Jews”.

You realize that the Christian faith cannot be forced. The decision to follow Christ has to be decided freely.


16 posted on 01/10/2014 5:48:01 PM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: ebb tide

Plus the first priority is for the renewing of the faith among the faithful.


17 posted on 01/10/2014 5:50:00 PM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl
I do not get what you are saying, “victorious Muslims and Jews”.

What I'm saying is: It doesn't really help when a pope preaches the Gospel of Jesus on one day, to one audience, when he goes out the next day and preaches totally heterodox declarations to false religions, without an inkling of urging them to convert.

18 posted on 01/10/2014 5:55:27 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Biggirl
Plus the first priority is for the renewing of the faith among the faithful.

That kind of hard to do when he's telling other audiences (e.g. atheists, Jews, etc.) they don't need to convert.

19 posted on 01/10/2014 5:59:20 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Let us agree to disagree. Okay.


20 posted on 01/10/2014 6:02:48 PM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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