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Pope: if we don’t "profess" the faith or trust in God, we become "defeated Christians"...
Asia News ^ | 1/10/2014

Posted on 01/10/2014 3:41:50 AM PST by markomalley

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To: annalex
You can assume whatever you want. But I don't dare do so.

When lighting the Chanukah lights, the entire household should gather so that the miracle which is being commemorated will be publicized. [Pirsum hanes, "publicizing the miracle," is an essential component of Chanukah.]

After lighting the first candle, and while lighting the others, one recites or sings HaNerot Halalu. When the lighting is concluded, Chanukah hymns are sung in accordance with local custom.

For your information, HaNerot Halalu is a Jewish prayer song.

How to Light

61 posted on 01/15/2014 7:20:04 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

So?


62 posted on 01/15/2014 7:24:12 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

That’s impossible because you won’t admit the falsehood in the first place. You explicitly said, “I made a reference to Apostolic Canon 45”. You never did. Don’t blame your misstatement on me not understanding you.


63 posted on 01/15/2014 7:26:03 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: annalex

Is that your way of giving up? Classy!


64 posted on 01/15/2014 7:26:59 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Giving up what?

1. The Pope was present at the lighting of the Hanukkah candles.
2. The Rabbi said Hanukkah prayers.
3. The cannons of the Church forbid common prayer with the Jews.

So?

Also, my neighbor has a red truck.

Clearer now?


65 posted on 01/16/2014 5:16:30 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex; ebb tide

So what do you think of Benedict XVI attending a worship service at a synagogue?


66 posted on 01/16/2014 1:54:30 PM PST by piusv
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To: ebb tide
Ebb, when will you get with the times???? ;-)
67 posted on 01/16/2014 3:53:10 PM PST by piusv
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To: annalex
Mortalium Animos, an infallible teaching of the Church, forbids Catholics from participating in any non-Catholic assembly.
68 posted on 01/16/2014 3:56:03 PM PST by piusv
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To: piusv; ebb tide
attending a worship service at a synagogue?

I don't like any such gestures, but that is beside the point.

Moreover, the topic of the thread is not Jewish relations. You guys hijacked the thread to make an anti-papist rant; please get lost.

69 posted on 01/16/2014 5:28:10 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: piusv; ebb tide
Mortalium Animos has for its topic ecumenical efforts leading to indifferentism. Surely it does not forbid, for example, secular assemblies where Catholics mix with non-Catholics. None of that is happening when a Catholic cleric is present, not joining in any service or prayers.

Again, I don't like it because I don't see how it helps in conversion of the Jews, but I defer to the Roman Pontiff to decide for himself. It is certainly a salutary development that Catholic-Jewish relations warmed up a bit.

That is my last post on this topic on this thread. You can rant on without me.

70 posted on 01/16/2014 5:34:09 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

Actually it is the point.

And “get lost”? Now that wasn’t very charitable, annalex.


71 posted on 01/16/2014 5:59:38 PM PST by piusv
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To: piusv

Learn to stay on topic and you’ll get my charity.


72 posted on 01/16/2014 6:01:01 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex; ebb tide

Um, the lighting of the Chanukah candles was not a secular assembly. It was an interfaith assembly that involved prayers among non-Catholics....Jewish and others. You should check out the youtube videos out there. This wasn’t “just a lighting of a candle” that Bergoglio was involved in. Catholics are forbidden to participate in non-Catholic services (which includes anything non-Catholic).

But you keep on with your invalid ranting about our valid ranting. Eventually you’ll see the errors of yours and many of our clergy’s/popes’ ways.


73 posted on 01/16/2014 6:04:49 PM PST by piusv
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To: annalex

Ah, another threat. Oh that’s right, “advice”. LOL


74 posted on 01/16/2014 6:05:46 PM PST by piusv
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To: piusv

I have nothing to add to my earlier posts on this topic.


75 posted on 01/16/2014 6:11:26 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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76 posted on 01/16/2014 6:15:25 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: annalex; ebb tide

Of course you don’t have anything to add. You can’t find anything that actually shows we’re wrong about traditional Catholic teaching on Catholics attending and participating in non-Catholic services. The only exceptions are solemn occasions such as funerals and weddings.

Pre-Vatican II Catholics just didn’t do it. Especially Popes. Period.


77 posted on 01/16/2014 6:18:40 PM PST by piusv
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To: piusv

And as for the charge of off-topic, ebbtide challenged the accuracy of a comment made by another poster in post #8 about Francis’ preaching of the Gospel of Jesus. Since Francis doesn’t make an effort to convert others to the Gospel of Jesus (remember “proselytism is solemn nonsense”), then it was certainly appropriate for him to do so.

As a result, subsequent posts are very much on topic.


78 posted on 01/16/2014 6:25:26 PM PST by piusv
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To: annalex

Read Jeremiah 31 and then tell me what it says (not what you wish it said).


79 posted on 01/16/2014 6:46:57 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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To: af_vet_1981

Why Jeremiah 31 is a clear prophecy of the rise of Christ from the womb of His all-holy mother, conversion of Jews to the Catholic Church and return of converted Israel, which is now the Church, to glory on earth.


80 posted on 01/17/2014 5:07:31 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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