Nailed it. Problem is that the wife and kids are fired up about this church's young adult programs, and it is where all of their friends go to church.
Posted on 01/11/2014 8:08:33 PM PST by Benito Cereno
It happened again yesterday. I was attending one of those hip, contemporary churches — and almost no one sang. Worshippers stood obediently as the band rocked out, the smoke machine belched and lights flashed. Lyrics were projected on the screen, but almost no one sang them. A few women were trying, but I saw only one male (other than the worship leader) making the attempt.
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A lot of modernist churches are attempting to draw young people in with bands and such. I love some Christian rock and electronic bands I listen to, but I would not want them to perform in my church. Just a perspective I guess.
We hit the decks a runnin, and we turn the guns around.
We hit the decks a runnin, and we turned the guns around.
Yeah, but it’s kind of sad that people don’t feel led to “worship”/sing, that’s all. I’ve noticed this myself. I think it’s the music and the band. The band’s too loud most of the time, to hear yourself think, and the music is indeed not very good either. When I first became a Christian (in the 70’s), the music was so awesome; as well, there’s nothing like joining in a large chorus of voices singing to God.
Good description.
Went to Seattle this summer to see newborn grandchild. We carried the 2 week old child into church that was so loud my wife and I could not talk to each other. Thankfully Mom took the child out. This continued for 40 minutes. I still get mad when I think about it. I categorized it as an assault on the congregation. It was self serving and not God honoring.
Nailed it. Problem is that the wife and kids are fired up about this church's young adult programs, and it is where all of their friends go to church.
bump!
I think I would have walked out too.
Please - find a new church with scripture-based songs. Worship is THE reason we Christians go to church — much has been written on proper worship over the centuries.
I could never tolerate not hearing the voices of my husband, my children, and those around me.
We attend a PCA church — can you find one nearby?
A Mighty Fortress
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRJHKzU_t1M
Most churches I know of have multiple services where the type of worship you prefer is offered. Just choose the one you like, problem solved.
our 9:30 Mass is usually attended by ouR EXTRAORDINARY childrens group.....we have a very gifted music coordinator (also works for the local school corporation,) an extremely gifted musician wife, pianist and organist....and people who really enjoy and back their efforts. They are also in charge of our city's children choir who have entertained internationally....I MEAN REALLY GOOD!!!
we are in Logansport, Indiana and it is worth the trip to come here and enjoy our children!!!!unbelieveable!!
I guess that she was being generous.
It all sounds like THIS.
That is a a problem I hear frequently, “they have a youth program with lot’s of activities including........” It’s not that hard to do, but you have to make it about God. These type churches are not about God. They are about money and they hook families into belonging by making the kids happy. I can’t tell you how to handle your situation because I don’t know the players. But would your family want to go to a strip bar that played gospel music and passed the plate for the dancers. That’s an extreme analogy and I am not trying to preach to you. You are the head of the family and you can display that without being abusive.
At our church we sing real hymns out of a real hymnal (Lutheran Service Book). And we use the historic liturgy of the Divine Service. Not bragging. It's just that's where we can find the best substance, paired with appropriate music, to deliver the goods.
Amen
Congratulations on kicking the butt and joining the millions who have done likewise.
I started smoking in 1948 and went through 2 packs a day for the next 50 years, trying to quit a few times. Nothing worked for me until one day I heard Rush talk about getting rid of his “nicotine stained fingers”. I used his method and quit cold turkey. What was his method? Not thinking of all the negative things connected with smoking, but focusing on all the benefits to be gained by quitting. It worked for me. I don’t insert myself to a smoker who wants to quit, but if asked I tell them my experience.
Ponder this one to her:
“If each line of a song is a step upon which the song can built, then what will the built song look like if all the same are the same?”
Poor “Jacob’s Ladder” were it to be written by a 7-11 songwriter - - - .
The Baptism of Our Lord — January 12, 2014
Divine Service, Setting Three (pages 184 ff.)
CONFESSION AND ABSOLUTION (pp. 184-85)
Hymn 404: Jesus, Once with Sinners Numbered
Invocation/Confession of Sins/Declaration of Grace (right column)
SERVICE OF THE WORD (pp. 186-93)
Hymn 401: From God the Father, Virgin-Born
Kyrie/ Gloria in Excelsis / Salutation and Collect of the Day
Old Testament Reading: Isaiah 42:1-9
Choir and congregation: Light of the World (see back of bulletin)
Epistle: Romans 6:1-11
Alleluia/ Holy Gospel: Matthew 3:1-12
Apostles’ Creed (p. 192)
Hymn 406: To Jordan Came the Christ, Our Lord (stanzas 1-4, 7)
Sermon
Offertory/ Offering/ Prayer of the Church
SERVICE OF THE SACRAMENT (pp. 194-202)
Preface/ Proper Preface/ Sanctus/ Lord’s Prayer
The Words of Our Lord/ Pax Domini/ Agnus Dei
Distribution of Communion
Hymn 548: Thanks to Thee, O Christ, Victorious
Hymn 598: Once in the Blest Baptismal Waters
Nunc Dimittis/ Thanksgiving
Salutation and Benedicamus/ Benediction
Hymn 405: To Jordan’s River Came Our Lord
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