Posted on 01/22/2014 9:30:46 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
LOL ok you get a couple of points for that. Just waiting now for the hetero/sodomite comparison post.
“If we had to earn His forgiveness, it wouldn’t be mercy and grace, it would be wages due for behavior performed.”
You just had to drop in this thread and make sense again:)
Yes imagine a Baptist media source skewering their own denomination. Having an arm of independent accountability is good. Kind of how the American press STARTED out.
Yeah, I know. I’m such a wet blanket.
Good source. Wonder if it cost the archdiocese the same amount of money the Army spent on similar programs for sexual assault. It wasn’t cheap.
And the foot washing analogy is one of my favorites. Just think hours later Peter denied His Lord. Yet the Lord preserved Peter ensuring his opportunity to confess his transgression. We sometimes forget we are not orphans in this relationship.
That is impossible because Calvinism and Arminianism are the antithesis of each other. The law of non-contradiction controls.
That is impossible because Calvinism and Arminianism are the antithesis of each other. The law of non-contradiction controls.
I eagerly await his thread series on all the things wrong with Arminianism.
“If Baptists can’t police up their own and put offenders on notice then why bother having a paper.”
EAch congregation remains an independent church. I’m part of a SBC church, but the SBC doesn’t even know how many members we have. It doesn’t know our attendance. It doesn’t know our budget.
The SBC exists to pool resources for seminaries and missions. It has no top down authority.
So, in your view would this mean that - if we do not confess - He would not forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness?
I’m confused here on your distinction for the saved person. You say for the saved “they need to confess that sin to open the lines of communication,” but not whether - if we do not confess - He “forgives us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”
You say no for the unsaved, I’m asking about the saved, if they do not confess.
Sort of like a confederacy. Understand.
Here is the moral of the story from the NT....We should not be stubborn idiots and refuse to confess our sins. Such an attitude would mean we are arrogant thinking we are better than God’s commands. If someone is in such a state of open rebellion to God, then Paul and Peter tell us to examine ourselves to see if we are in the faith.
My previous threads were what could be called the massive body blows that each (in their turn) turned the Calvinist stomach, intestines, etc, etc, to mush.
This was the jawbreaking blow to the face that knocked Calvinism OUT.
All metaphorically speaking, of course...
Especially when one is shadow boxing.
>> “ Most of these type churches have elders who can remove a minister or pastor. Basically they can fire them so they no longer lead.” <<
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Yes, they can, but in the rare instances when they do, it is usually for an essentially political reason. Doctrinally, they are in hypnotic lock-step in most congregations.
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By Yeshua’s words, there is no salvation until the end, for anyone.
Matthew 24:
[12] And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
[13] But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Can anyone show us a verse that says there can be salvation before the end?
As to confession and repentance 1John 1:9 is pretty clear that both are required (as many times as the Holy Spirit shows us a sin).
Well then, I thank God that YOU aren't going to be the one who determines that.
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