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Converted and Converting [St. Paul]
SalvationHistory.com ^ | 01-22-14 | Scott Hahn

Posted on 01/24/2014 8:43:28 PM PST by Salvation

Converted and Converting

Posted by Dr. Scott Hahn on 01.22.14 |

Our patron, St. Paul, isn’t any ordinary saint. He’s a singularity. He’s unique. And the Church calendar reflects the extraordinary role he played in God’s revelation. It was he who brought the Gospel to the world beyond Israel — the Gentiles. He’s credited as author of more than half the books of the New Testament, and it was under Paul’s tutelage that Luke composed his Gospel and Acts.

The Apostle to the Gentiles gets not one but two feasts on the Church’s Western calendar. In June he shares a feast with St. Peter, with whom he died as a martyr as they consecrated Rome with their blood.

Novena to St. Paul the Apostle

On January 25, however, we at the St. Paul Center mark our patronal feast: the Feast of the Conversion of St. Paul. It’s a glorious day, quite unlike other feasts. For Paul’s conversion marks a milestone not only in his own life, but in the life of God’s people. Once a persecutor of Christ, he became the Lord’s preacher. Once an impediment to the Gospel, he became its great champion. Once a guardian of Israel as an ethnic preserve of holiness, Paul came to serve as a father in the worldwide (literally, catholic) Church that included both Jews and Gentiles.

The story of St. Paul’s conversion is told repeatedly in the New Testament, three times in the Acts of the Apostles and then, briefly, in Paul’s own correspondence with the Galatians and Corinthians. In all of history, no other conversion gets that kind of special coverage, with God himself as primary author of the narrative!

It’s possible, though, to over-emphasize the uniqueness of Paul’s conversion. When we consider the lives of the saints — and especially saints as extraordinary as Paul — we can be tempted to miss the lessons of their lives. We can miss the lessons that apply especially to us.

More than a decade ago, with my wife Kimberly and a few colleagues, I founded this apostolate, and we decided to name it after St. Paul. Most of us were converts to the Catholic faith, having come into full communion with the Church as adults. St. Paul, the “adult convert,” was a special guide for us.

But even that application is too narrow for this saint and this feast. For he’s not just a patron to those who change religious affiliation. In fact, it’s debatable whether he would have considered his affiliation to be different after he met the Lord.

No. St. Paul is everyone’s patron because we’re all called to conversion — and we’re always called to conversion, even if we’ve been Catholics since the cradle and attending Mass daily for decades.

Jesus said: “Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 18:3). The word he used for “turn” is at the root of all our Christian terms and notions about conversion.

Conversion is a turning toward God. It is a turning away from sin and from attachment to worldly things and worldly cares. This is the work of a lifetime. It’s not the matter of a moment. It’s not just “once and done.”

Unless we turn — unless we become “converts” — we’re not Christian. Unless we make a habit of repentance, we’re not disciples of Jesus Christ. We must convert again and again. We celebrate our conversions whenever we go to Confession. We celebrate our conversions, in fact, whenever we resist distraction and turn to our Father God in prayer.

In his Apostolic Exhortation Evangelii Gaudium, on the joy of the Gospel, Pope Francis makes this matter abundantly clear. He is worried less about the enemies “out there” in the world than the enemies within — the vices and the unconverted habits that tempt us away from Christ and threaten our perseverance in the faith. He calls baptized Christians to “experience a conversion which will restore the joy of faith to their hearts and inspire a commitment to the Gospel.” He defines conversion as “openness to a constant self-renewal born of fidelity to Jesus Christ.” He emphasizes that even the pope must undergo such a conversion.

If we work on this, he says, all else will fall into place, in society and in the Church.

St. Paul should be our model for conversion. His conversion was ongoing, lifelong, never easy, but always joyful. “Rejoice in the Lord always,” he said in his Letter to the Philippians (4:4). “Again I will say, Rejoice.” Paul is joyful not because of how good things are getting, but how good God is. That’s the fruit of true conversion.

And that’s a great reason to celebrate on January 25. I hope you’ll join me in a special observance of the day. Be bold in asking God for graces. Be importunate, too, as you beg on my behalf and on behalf of the St. Paul Center.

Novena to St. Paul the Apostle

Entrust your intention to St. Paul and offer the following prayer.
O St. Paul, the Apostle, preacher of truth and Doctor of the Gentiles, intercede for us to God, who chose you.
You are a vessel of election, O St. Paul the Apostle, preacher of truth to the whole world.
O God, you have instructed many nations through the preaching of the blessed apostle Paul. Let the power of his intercession with you help us who venerate his memory this day.

Conclude with an
Our Father, Hail Mary, and Glory Be.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
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To: Gamecock

In truth, Salvation is correct, if the Holy Spirit did not work through St. Paul, we would not be here.


41 posted on 01/25/2014 7:53:40 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: infool7

No wonder those who have no fatih in Christ look at those who do who fight one another with disdain.


42 posted on 01/25/2014 7:56:21 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

The Holy Spirit could have worked through the mouth of an donkey and we would be saved. (Num 22)

This shows the Roman Catholic error in holding up God’s mouthpieces as superior humans. Paul was a sinner, just like the rest of us.


43 posted on 01/25/2014 8:02:04 AM PST by Gamecock (If you like your constitution, you can keep your constitution. Period. (M.S.))
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To: Gamecock

In truth, God the Holy Spirit worked via St. Paul.


44 posted on 01/25/2014 8:06:03 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Gamecock

....So Salvation is in the CORRECT.


45 posted on 01/25/2014 8:06:54 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: infool7

....I often wonder if those who post anti-Catholic stuff simply are just giving their “own opinons” only.


46 posted on 01/25/2014 8:29:15 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

Yes that is a very sad fact however we have been warned that weeds have been sewn in with the wheat and that to prevent the innocent from being pulled up with the guilty we would be allowed to grow together until harvest time. It is of utmost importance that during this time that the little ones are not misled by our teachings, for the penalty of such carries a very HEAVY price indeed.

Christ instructs us that we are to LOVE one another (and our enemies) as he has loved us, this is how people can recognize His disciples. It is painfully obvious to me that some here do not practice His teaching and it does not take much reading to discover who they are by the tone of their posts. We must remember however that this is not a war against flesh and our prayers for their salvation will be answered.

I humbly ask that you pray for the conversion of all sinners especially the one writing this.


47 posted on 01/25/2014 9:00:30 AM PST by infool7 (The ugly truth is just a big lie.)
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To: Biggirl; Gamecock; Salvation
In truth, Salvation is correct, if the Holy Spirit did not work through St. Paul, we would not be here.

Yeah, it's not like the Holy Spirit had someone else to use. There were no other people on the planet, I guess.

The rest of us have a bigger God than one who is hamstrung by people and their willingness to cooperate. We know enough Scripture to know that He can even use a donkey.

48 posted on 01/25/2014 9:44:20 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Biggirl

Of course the Holy Spirit worked through Paul.

However, He could have used ANYONE because it’s the Holy Spirit responsible for whatever Catholics want to attribute to Paul, not Paul himself.


49 posted on 01/25/2014 9:45:48 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Salvation
Entrust your intention to St. Paul and offer the following prayer. O St. Paul, the Apostle, preacher of truth and Doctor of the Gentiles, intercede for us to God, who chose you. You are a vessel of election, O St. Paul the Apostle, preacher of truth to the whole world. O God, you have instructed many nations through the preaching of the blessed apostle Paul. Let the power of his intercession with you help us who venerate his memory this day.

Imagine what Paul would have specifically said had he known people would have PRAYED TO him when he had departed this earth. Or had asked for his intercession with God with Christ reigning. The Epistle to the Catholics.

50 posted on 01/25/2014 10:00:31 AM PST by xone
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To: infool7

You got that right.


51 posted on 01/25/2014 10:03:33 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: xone

Please read the prayer again. We are asking St. Paul to pray for us. (intercede for us )(intercession)

Read the introductions to his Letters. In almost everyone of them he prays for them....and then again at the end of the letter.


52 posted on 01/25/2014 10:04:06 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Read the introductions to his Letters. In almost everyone of them he prays for them....and then again at the end of the letter.

Please reread what I said. When Paul said he was praying for them, both parties were still on this mortal coil and Paul was praying to God, not to his readers. Do you have evidence that after Paul's earthly death he was going to continue to pray for them? Of course not, Paul was very definitive about the destination (if you will) for prayer. He never claimed the special intercessory power given to him by Catholics. He made the claim that there was ONE intercessor between God and man. Jesus. If the Catholic claim be true, why didn't Paul lay out the process for such effectual prayer? Because prayer (to give glory, to ask for intercession, to ask for forgiveness of sin) rightly belongs to God. This must be another place where what the author has written is ignored for the tradition of the church.

53 posted on 01/25/2014 10:18:05 AM PST by xone
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To: Salvation

Out of all which I just previously wrote...THAT is your own take-away from it? I may as well be speaking to brick walls. Moo?

The term Romanist originally came into use in the 19th century, and though used chiefly by Anglicans in referring to Roman Catholic proponents of the idea that the Church of Rome, and it's own Bishop be "Supreme", over all, was used also in past times (upon occasion) by "Roman" Catholics themselves, in referring to themselves.

That usage comes about when need arises for differentiation of the various groups which lay claim to the title "Catholic". As example --- the Eastern, Greek, & Russian Orthodox do refer to themselves as "Catholic", while holding some disagreement with [ahem] Romanist concepts such as; "all must be subject to the Roman Pontiff", or even that "the Church" itself should be ordered much along lines of monarchy --- for it most certainly was not modeled as such, from it's own very beginning. Not even Israel itself, did God Almighty Himself desire to be under rule of earthly "kings", but it was indeed "the people" themselves whom clamored for, and insisted that they be "ruled over" in such manner...

Returning more directly to discussion of the term Romanist itself (you did ask);
On prior occasions, on these pages (FR), on threads which I do believe that you yourself were also present, I have posted entire pages from a particularly dusty Anglican tome providing explanation for the term, it's definition and usage --- along with the reasoning behind the "why" such came to be.

There are differing sorts of "Catholics". Not all are in agreement that "Rome" as it were, be the center of gravity (or center of the Universe?) in regards to Christianity itself, or that -- specifically --- God Almighty intended for such claims as "Romanists" (for lack of more succinct term) frequently make concerning the "supremacy" of their own singular branch (themselves) over all other "branches", East, West, North & South...

Farber touches upon some of the reasons for the objections, while also giving thorough explanation of the term "Romanist" and the reasons for the use of that precise word. Would you care for me to again dig into this volume, find precisely where he engaged in such discussion, and (once again) re-post that information by way of screen capture image, from the pages themselves? I have indeed provided the info on two occasions previous (that I can recall --- there may have been a third time).

If one wishes to see "put-down" or intended insult aimed at persons, and groups of individuals, look towards post # 20, of this thread.

Figs of thistles, thrust at others faces -- par for the course -- for that particular individual. If not every day that sort of crude & extremely RUDE insult comes from that person, then at least once a week. For the last -- how many years now?

Ah, Romanists. Such a thoroughly insightful, lovely and loving crowd... (not!)

54 posted on 01/25/2014 11:46:47 AM PST by BlueDragon (I saw what you did, and I know who you are! (elephants never forget))
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To: G Larry

Hahn has never retracted that perverted view of the Holy Trinity.


55 posted on 01/25/2014 12:29:11 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Thanks for that link.


56 posted on 01/25/2014 12:41:54 PM PST by xone
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To: Salvation
Mat 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
Mat 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
Mat 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
Mat 23:5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
Mat 23:6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
Mat 23:7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

Luk 20:46 Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;
Luk 20:47 Which devour widows' houses, and for a shew make long prayers: the same shall receive greater damnation.

All one has to do is look...It couldn't be any more clear...

This is not the church of the New Testament...

Act 10:25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.
Act 10:26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.


57 posted on 01/25/2014 12:57:33 PM PST by Iscool
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To: ebb tide

So far I’ve never seen proof that he held such a view.

Just a bunch of folks pointing and arguing.


58 posted on 01/25/2014 12:59:56 PM PST by G Larry
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To: ebb tide

Aside from your personal disapproval of Dr. Hahn, what do you disagree with in THIS article?


59 posted on 01/25/2014 1:01:36 PM PST by G Larry
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To: ebb tide

Here is your “never”....

>http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2009/10/scott-hahn-clarifies-about-femininity.html<


60 posted on 01/25/2014 1:04:09 PM PST by G Larry
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