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Catholic, Are You Born Again?
Tim Staples' Blog ^ | February 5, 2014 | Tim Staples

Posted on 02/07/2014 4:44:09 AM PST by GonzoII

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To: gemoftheocean
Alex, here’s a pretty good relatively short read re: the canonicity of the New Testament.

That doesn't answer what I asked. Go back and re-read my post, then try again.

81 posted on 02/07/2014 10:29:21 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: bramps

Currently, I am outside all Churches, religions, and boxes. It is a spiritual freedom quite like I have never experienced before. Not sure i want to go back to any denomination or religion and start putting layers back onto what I just escaped by the Grace of God.

My only goal is to be baptized as an adult.


82 posted on 02/07/2014 10:39:56 AM PST by Boanarges
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To: gemoftheocean

Rather than respond point by point...

Everything you posted was false - either made up or perverted.

And the snarky tone of your post is far from Christ’s command that Christians love one another.


83 posted on 02/07/2014 10:42:37 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: gemoftheocean
He still told us to EAT HIS FLESH AND DRINK HIS BLOOD. Who are you to deny him or pretend it’s “a memorial.”

If John's account in chapter 6 foreshadows the Lord's Table, it is inconceivable that John does not mention the Eucharist in the upper room discourse.

84 posted on 02/07/2014 10:44:03 AM PST by dartuser
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To: wmfights
IOW, there was very little controversy concerning what was inspired and what wasn't.

They were late to the party by almost 100 years ... but they like to suppose they called the party ...

85 posted on 02/07/2014 10:48:52 AM PST by dartuser
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To: gemoftheocean

“So you and Judas will be good buddies”

Ouch! I just speak from my heart and the Truth that resides in my Spirit. Why the vitriol? How about we just disagree and leave it at that!


86 posted on 02/07/2014 11:00:12 AM PST by Boanarges
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To: gemoftheocean; Boanarges; All
Didn't Judas betray Jesus with a kiss?
87 posted on 02/07/2014 11:27:23 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: frogjerk

YOu still haven’t posted any scriptures that show babies were baptized...Try again...


88 posted on 02/07/2014 11:27:55 AM PST by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: Iscool

And you haven’t posted any examples where only Adults were baptized. Secondly, if you do not declare your faith in Jesus Christ and you are 3 years old do you go to Hell?


89 posted on 02/07/2014 11:44:10 AM PST by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: gemoftheocean
“I have never seen any scripture indicating that babies were baptized.” — I’ve never seen any scripture indicated that only adults were. As a matter of fact, scripture is more supportive of the Catholic faith’s teaching of infant baptism. See Acts 16:15, 16:33; 1 Cor 1:16. for references to whole households being baptized.

You just admitted that you don't read the bible or you would know these things...

Act 16:32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

They preached to everyone in the house...One should be able to conclude that every one in the house could not only hear but understand as well...No babies...

Act 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
Act 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

There's a requirement...You must believe in Jesus for baptism...No babies...

Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

No baptism without repentance...No babies...

90 posted on 02/07/2014 12:00:47 PM PST by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: gemoftheocean; aMorePerfectUnion
In other words we do NOT know we are “saved” until the end.

AMPU, can you imagine trading eternal security for that???

91 posted on 02/07/2014 12:10:46 PM PST by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: Boanarges
Currently, I am outside all Churches, religions, and boxes. It is a spiritual freedom quite like I have never experienced before. Not sure i want to go back to any denomination or religion and start putting layers back onto what I just escaped by the Grace of God.

I see no reason why just anyone would not be sufficient to perform the duty but I'd lean more to having a Christian involved....I personally subscribe to being 'dunked'...

Baptism is not something God does...It is something you do...A testimony to God and the world...

I'd recommend someone with experience or at least practice...You want to make sure you come back up...

I was baptized in a lake with bunches of Christians standing in and out of the water singing hymns and lots of prayer...Potluck dinner/picnic after...A memorable experience...

92 posted on 02/07/2014 12:22:35 PM PST by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: Boanarges
God bless you on your journey - and bless you for keeping at it. I, too, was born/baptized/raised Catholic...but there was an unsettling I couldn't explain...ever since I was 8 years old. In my late teens, I started going to a non-denominational fellowship (but also went to mass as I was still living under my parents' roof and it would have been disrespectful to go against their wishes). Eventually, I moved out, married, etc. I was baptized in my early 30's at a non-denominational church...and it was wonderful.

Not big on any organized religion right now...just me, a bible, some family, whatever. Most of my family is still Catholic, and we just respect each other's beliefs.

To me...Jesus is my Savior...the rest is noise.

I'll bet if you look up "non-denominational fellowship" in your area and pray about it, God will lead to you a place for baptism.

93 posted on 02/07/2014 12:26:19 PM PST by ZinGirl (kids in college....can't afford a tagline right now)
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To: frogjerk
Secondly, if you do not declare your faith in Jesus Christ and you are 3 years old do you go to Hell?

Absolutely not...Bible says the law was given that we would be knowledgeable and convicted of sin...

You can not be under the law if you don't even know what it is...If you are a baby, there is no sin...

Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

94 posted on 02/07/2014 12:34:24 PM PST by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: Iscool

In short, no.

I believe it is unthinking regurgitation though. There is a sadness about everyone who substitutes a relationship with Him for any any manner of false religion.


95 posted on 02/07/2014 12:43:33 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: frogjerk

“And you haven’t posted any examples where only Adults were baptized.”

Every baptism in the New Testament.


96 posted on 02/07/2014 1:02:07 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ZinGirl

I come from a very large Catholic family, and sadly my decision to walk away from that religion was not respected by some of them. My Mom gives me the most grief about it, even when I tell her my relationship with Christ has deepened because of my simplified Faith. My sister (born again) and I joke about being step-children in our large family because of our departure from Catholicism.

I’m going to take your advice and knock on some doors to find my Baptism and let God do the rest!


97 posted on 02/07/2014 2:10:42 PM PST by Boanarges
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To: Iscool

Dunked, water poured, sprinkled water, all are accepted for baptism.


98 posted on 02/07/2014 2:56:59 PM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: gemoftheocean

True, it was said in Acts that whole households baptised and that included little babies.


99 posted on 02/07/2014 2:58:26 PM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Boanarges

I will pray for you.


100 posted on 02/07/2014 3:17:05 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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