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What have I said that makes you think I would want or recommend that any of them have an abortion, or any one else for that matter.

I was just giving you some facts because you seem to think that abortion is OK in the case of rape.

You have made that pretty clear.

It's still murder of an unborn child who is innocent.

No, what I have said, at least 20 times in this thread, is that giving the victim the opportunity to consent that was denied her by the rapist is what is OK.

I have never said that abortion is OK. What is not OK is forcing a rape victim to bear the child of the rapist.

If the victim chooses to abort the child, then that decision is hers to bear, but it IS her choice to make, and I don't see that changing at all. If the victim decides to bear the child and then adopt it out, that is her decision to make, and I don't see that changing at all. If the victim decides to bear the child and raise it, that is her decision to make, and I don't see that changing at all.

Really, it's her decision to make, and whatever she decides is the outcome, and you're not going to take that power away from her no matter how much you may want to.

Best you can do is hope to influence that decision in a positive manner, which is what I have accurately stated all along. It's not my fault you and most others her cannot recognize or accept simple reality.

I have bolded these things, because really I'm tired of saying the same things over and over to people who appear incapable of understanding simple English.

I have never once said that I am for dead babies, really, try to get that through your skull. Are dead babies going to happen? Yeah, doesn't mean I'm for it though.

Much as you try to paint gray over with black and white, gray still remains, period.