Posted on 02/17/2014 9:40:55 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
And, no, I am not *proud of my Protestant doctrines*.
And my world does not revolve around a pope or his calendar.
It does not have any authority over me.
Artificial is not of God. Therefore it is wrong. Grandma didn’t have a pill to pop to prevent pregnancy. She got along just fine, but that is before the pro-abort whackos like Gloria Steinems took over the country. Grandma had something that is sorely lacking in today’s society - common sense. Contraceptives also cause breast cancer.
You really want to base your moral view on contraception on a man who was forced on his dead brother's wife by a father who wanted grandchildren so badly that he impregnated her himself when she prostituted herself on the side of the road?
Even the Supreme Court admitted this. From Contraception & Abortion: The Deadly Connection
The Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v. Casey decision, which placed some legal restrictions on access to abortion including informed consent and parental consent, reaffirmed the basic tenets of the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision.http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=505&invol=833
In what is probably the key passage to the entire decision, the Court argued that the legal necessity of surgical abortion is based on its social use as backup contraception:
The Roe rule's limitation on state power could not be repudiated without serious inequity to people who, for two decades of economic and social developments, have organized intimate relationships and made choices that define their views of themselves and their places in society, in reliance on the availability of abortion in the event that contraception should fail. The ability of women to participate equally in the economic and social life of the Nation has been facilitated by their ability to control their reproductive lives. The Constitution serves human values, and while the effect of reliance on Roe cannot be exactly measured, neither can the certain costs of overruling Roe for people who have ordered their thinking and living around that case be dismissed.
Again, what the Casey Court is essentially saying is that legal abortion as backup contraception is a social necessity. The pro-life community, therefore, needs to examine the role of contraception in legally sustaining abortion-on-demand - on propping up, so to speak, Roe v. Wade. We would be foolish to ignore what the United States Supreme Court is telling us here. Sadly, many pro-lifers sink their collective heads in the sand when it comes to the sensitive issue of contraception and its social and legal link to surgical abortion.
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While most protestant denominations shy away from even talking about birth control, the Catholic Church leads the way in telling the world how evil it really is. Contraceptives and abortion go hand in hand.
Artificial is not of God?
Do you wear polyester clothes?
Do you drive a car?
What are you doing on the internet?
Go to the doctor for medical treatment?
Why aren’t you Amish?
That is not an entirely accurate statement. Not ALL contraceptives cause breast cancer. Only the pill.
The pill is not the only form of contraceptive out there.
Not for birth control Tonto. It causes cancer and God does not like things that kill people.
“Only the pill”
So what? It causes cancer.
That is good to hear.. the world calls today Wednesday and God and His word doesn’t..
The world is in the second month of their satantic calendar and we are in God’s eleventh month..
When I was able to see His feasts and His Sabbath in His calendar and compare it to Satan’s calendar sabbaths and holy days , it was startling.
Choice is clear and can’t be mistaken.. sadly the organized churches have adopted the beast’s calendar... let’s pray they see the truth soon.
My comment got clumped into one big paragraph.. I will try to re do it for you at some point..
Thanks...
Romans 14:1-29 As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God. For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself. For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's. For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.
Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.
Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother. I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. For if your brother is grieved by what you eat, you are no longer walking in love. By what you eat, do not destroy the one for whom Christ died. So do not let what you regard as good be spoken of as evil. For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. Whoever thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding.
Do not, for the sake of food, destroy the work of God. Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to make another stumble by what he eats. It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble. The faith that you have, keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who has no reason to pass judgment on himself for what he approves. But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.
Acts 15:1-29 But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brothers, “Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.” And after Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and debate with them, Paul and Barnabas and some of the others were appointed to go up to Jerusalem to the apostles and the elders about this question. So, being sent on their way by the church, they passed through both Phoenicia and Samaria, describing in detail the conversion of the Gentiles, and brought great joy to all the brothers. When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and the elders, and they declared all that God had done with them. 5 But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, “It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses.”
The apostles and the elders were gathered together to consider this matter. And after there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. And God, who knows the heart, bore witness to them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us, and he made no distinction between us and them, having cleansed their hearts by faith. Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.”
And all the assembly fell silent, and they listened to Barnabas and Paul as they related what signs and wonders God had done through them among the Gentiles. After they finished speaking, James replied, “Brothers, listen to me. Simeon has related how God first visited the Gentiles, to take from them a people for his name. And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written,
“‘After this I will return, and I will rebuild the tent of David that has fallen; I will rebuild its ruins, and I will restore it, that the remnant of mankind may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who are called by my name, says the Lord, who makes these things 18 known from of old.’
Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood. For from ancient generations Moses has had in every city those who proclaim him, for he is read every Sabbath in the synagogues.”
Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brothers, with the following letter: “The brothers, both the apostles and the elders, to the brothers who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greetings. Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will tell you the same things by word of mouth. For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”
MEGO
It seems kinda obvious...
Psalm 127:3-5 (niv)
3 Children are a heritage from the Lord,
offspring a reward from him.
4 Like arrows in the hands of a warrior
are children born in one’s youth.
5 Blessed is the man
whose quiver is full of them.
They will not be put to shame
when they contend with their opponents in court.
Amen.
-— Yet before that, one commenter in the film observed, “Every single church affirmed that children are a blessing and that we have no business saying no to God’s blessings.” -—
Bump.
And Humanae Vitae is worth the 15 minutes it takes to read.
-— Birth control didn’t cause the moral decline.
It’s a symptom, not the cause.-—
It’s not an either/or, but a both/and.
-— people want to blame anything, we could point out that Vatican 2 came before birth control-—
Birth control has been around for centuries. Artificial means of induced sterility are centuries old. The pill came into widespread use in the mid- sixties. Humanae Vitae was published in 1968.
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