Posted on 02/18/2014 3:16:33 AM PST by markomalley
Msgr Pope ping
I dunno...the author should go back and look at the original Greek and Hebrew scripture and not focus on the English translation for this kind of analysis.
Heady stuff; well done.
Please put me on the ping list.
"3.Step three is, by Gods grace, to stop feeding the flesh and start feeding the spirit on prayer, scripture, Church teaching and Holy Communion.
I would reverse scripture and prayer and knock out Church teaching and Holy Communion.
We learn HOW to commune with God through scripture and we commune with God IN PRAYER (and HE with us)
Amen to that.
done.
Sex.
Getting' down wid OPP.
Not a catholic but I enjoyed the article.
I have to agree with you out to about 99%.
I do believe there is some good in Church teachings. As a youngun, I grew up learning the bible and other teachings every Sunday school classes held at our Church while my parents attended church services.
Of course we were from an old German settlement but from these teachings my belief in God was established. My parents also instilled these beliefs at home as well.
I still attend the same clapboard church and Sunday school is conducted in the same manner as it was 55 years ago.
Church teachings inform us how a particular passage of Scripture is to be interpreted. This is fairly important for all: think about the differences in denominations on really important issues. Such as the difference between Lutherans and Presbyterians (for the purpose of our discussion, let’s talk about LCMS vs PCA/OPC...so we can leave aside what’s happened in other groups in modern times). Or think about the difference between Baptists and Reformation Protestants (such as with infant baptism and its effect). Or even the differences between Southern Baptists, Independent Fundamental Baptists, and General Baptists. Or think about the differences between charismatics and others. Some of those differences are relatively trivial, some are actually central to the Faith (I think about the differences between Calvinism and Arminianism as being pretty foundational). Yet most, if not all, claim to believe in the Scriptures as their sole source for doctrine and practice.
Church teaching provides for a relatively constant understanding of what, exactly, is meant and what should be believed. Unless you are sitting at home with nothing other than a Bible and a Strong’s Concordance, you will see Church teaching one way or the other.
i.e.
Pants on women .... long hair on men ... short hair on women ... submissiveness of wife to husband ... etc.
I attend a Baptist church and we are known, derogatorily , as those people that don't allow women to wear pants ... or that pastor that doesn't allow women to wear pants ... neither of which is true.
But about once or twice a year we DO hear the messages from Deuteronomy about that which pertaineth to a man or a woman. (hmmm ... how about THAT ... my spell checker underlined pertaineth ... I guess English is no longer recognized ... )
I rest my case here.
T’anks. What a worthy word study in brief .
“Church teachings inform us how a particular passage of Scripture is to be interpreted....Church teaching provides for a relatively constant understanding of what, exactly, is meant and what should be believed.”
Your church may give you a constant, but what if Rome is totally and constantly wrong? What if you have trusted a false gospel?
“And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.”
-—Acts 17:10-11
I compare everything I am taught to the Word of God to see whether those things are so. And rather than trusting men I pray I am one of those “taught of God” in the sense of John 6:45.
Ping!
Post 12 did not even discuss the Church. It was talking about church teachings from allegedly Sola Scriptura groups. All of which claim to be influenced solely by the Scriptures.
Perhaps you would care to reap pond to that post rather than going on yet another of your tiresome, prideful diatribes.
Prov 29:23 “ Humiliation followeth the proud: and glory shall uphold the humble of spirit.”
II Tim 3:1-5 “ Know also this, that, in the last days, shall come dangerous times. Men shall be lovers of themselves, covetous, haughty, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, wicked, Without affection, without peace, slanderers, incontinent, unmerciful, without kindness, Traitors, stubborn, puffed up, and lovers of pleasures more than of God: Having an appearance indeed of godliness, but denying the power thereof. Now these avoid.”
Or, as Our Lady said, “ He hath shewed might in his arm: he hath scattered the proud in the conceit of their heart.” (Lk 1:51)
Today it is easy, fast and free to get back to the original Greek to see depth of meaning and translation interpretations. Blue Letter Bible has a web site and an app with a great concordance, listing all the words in a verse at one time, and then all the verses that use each Greek word. In the old days that would take hours with Strong's; now it takes minutes. The iOS app even has audio pronunciation of each Greek word. BibleHub.com has a free interlinear Bible. I did pay a few dollars for the OliveTree KJV with Strong's, and now I can see the original Greek with one tap on a word, and all the verses that use that word with another.
Here's a quick example: the word "diligence" in 2Pe 1:5 is spoude meaning "speed, haste, dispatch, earnestness, eagerness". It is also the root of the Greek word translated "give diligence" in verse 10 and "endeavor" in verse 15. So, three times Peter was inspired to use this word referring to the list of qualities in verses 5-7. Enhances the meaning and emphasis, doesn't it?
I responded directly to your claim with a question. I even quoted you. Apparently you can take swipes at Protestants but we shouldn’t respond. Frankly, if you don’t like my criticism of Roman Catholicism, then you and the others should stop with the ceaseless Romish propaganda. And believe it or not, my goal isn’t to debate you, and it certainly isn’t to please you. My goal is to sound the alarm. My goal is to make people think and consider what God has said through His Word, not what Rome says, and not other men.
Rome’s gospel is a damning false gospel. You may never believe me, but I pray someone else will. Based on all the emails I receive, lots of people believe me. Believe it or not, I have received much encouragement for challenging all the propaganda. I’ve heard from a number of people looking for insight into the errors of Rome.
I have never posted a single thread on this website. I don’t use it as a platform to spread my faith. But you and so many others do, and since I know that faith is a false religion, I feel duty-bound to warn others when I can. I care about the souls of men, even people I don’t know. It’s very hard to simply scroll past soul-destroying doctrine and remain silent when I know the truth. I know the truth because I know Him. A believer is supposed to be salt and light to a dead and dying world. He can’t hide the truth under a bushel. I know some person reading these posts could be in his final days on this planet and in dire need of the biblical gospel, not the Roman Catholic gospel. Last days or not, I know many who read this site need Christ, the Jesus Christ of the Bible, not Rome’s Christ.
Thank you for another opportunity to post these links. I hope hundreds of people follow them and listen to these message today. And because of you giving me this opportunity, I pray The Lord directs thousands to this post over the coming months, even years. If even one lurking soul is awakened to the dangers of Rome, my time on Free Republic has been well spent.
Why We Must Continue to Oppose the False Gospel of Rome
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=11412161783
The Heresy of Roman Catholicism
http://www.sermonaudio.com/search.asp?seriesOnly=true&currSection=sermonstopic&sourceid=johnmacarthur&keyword=The+Heresy+of+Catholicism&keyworddesc=The+Heresy+of+Catholicism
The Gospel of Jesus Christ
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=61000231635
Martin Luther’s Gospel
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=1031111041573
Well said and well done! God will reach those He is calling through your posts.
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