Posted on 02/18/2014 5:28:04 PM PST by SeekAndFind
I think they can be compatible by realizing two distinct concepts. 1. There is an almighty God who created and ruled the Universe and everything in it, a God whose only begotten Son we rely on for salvation from the evil we do, an awesome God with control over everything around us. 2. That God is not you.
Groovy; however, I don't believe the church has sunk that low.
Sodom and Gomorrah was full of libertarians and liberals, but evidently few social conservatives.
RE: Should Christians shoot up drugs and allow men having sex with men (or goats for that matter) to marry?
The Libertarian response to the above is — Decriminalizing an act does not mean that one endorses the act.
You can still preach against it openly.
However the majority of libertarians support legal access to abortion and the Libertarian Platform doesn’t disagree, not something that fits with Christianity IMHO.
These Libertarians are crazies with a smattering of Ayn Rand's ideas. After 30 years and god knows how many dollars spent they managed to get about two three people elected to office. Support for child molestation and Arab terrorism figure prominently in their movement.
p.s. Ayn Rand detested the Libertarians and said she would vote for Jerry Lewis over those “right wing hippies.”
Christianity is the process of growing to know and experience God through His Son, Jesus Christ. In order to surrender within to the process you must first be an empty vessel as otherwise if you are full of yourself you have no room for God.
However, in order to be full of yourself, you must be free and out of attachment or dependency upon others or a government. If your will is not yours, you do not have the authority over it necessary to surrender it and grow.
Thus Libertarians are seeking the freedom of choice that is necessary to choose God. That “freedom of will” also allows individuals to choose other paths that do not lead toward the same destination.
We have to decide if we support abortion and and gay marriage, and homosexualizing the military, etc., if we don’t, we vote to maintain a conservative America, if we do, then we vote to end conservative America.
This is just another approach to fight conservatism, with an altered vocabulary.
“I’m not liberal, I’m libertarian”, “I don’t support abortion, I just don’t care”, so “I will vote for the pro-abortion guy over the anti-abortion guy”.
Are you stoned or just stupid? Christians won’t do those things BY CHOICE. To assume that you can run someone’s life better than they can and to do it under threat of force is worse than the sin of drug usage or homosexuality or bestiality.
Stoned or stupid? This is funny coming from a Libertarian. Hey man.... Pass the refer. Let's legalize PCP while we're at it /sarc
Libertarians also steal votes from Conservatives, allowing Liberals to win elections.
They are so useful /sarc GIVE ME A JOINT!
God did not put up an electric fence around the TREE of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. He never stopped anyone who insisted they wanted to jump off a bridge.
I don’t think so. http://www.faithfacts.org/blog/libertarianism-christianity
That is an obscene statement, freedom to choose God is already there, libertarians are a political movement to elect politicians and make legislation to create Sodom and Gomorrah, to erase the Christian culture and it's influence over centuries of America, and to destroy America economically and through ending national borders.
Social liberalism makes it impossible for conservative economics to survive, impossible.
Read my tagline. I guess you haven’t lost enough freedoms yet.
God did not tell people to VOTE to create a ruined nation.
This is about VOTING, making political choices, choosing politicians, making party platforms.
We economic conservatives know that broken families, broken communities, broken people, don’t support conservative economics, they vote for instant gratification, and to take.
Don’t use God to sell Satan.
A government has a “Justice System” which enshrines Objective Truth—in the US Constitution, we acknowledge God-Given Individual Rights. Justice is a Virtue only——the Queen of Virtue, and as such, there is ONE ethical system built into our idea of “Just Law” which HAS to promote Virtue ONLY (if there is a law at all).
Now, all “evil” law is Null and Void. IOW, laws which promote Vice/evil/dysfunction, etc. are unconstitutional. The Classical understanding of Law (which is ours) is based on Natural Moral law and the teleological ends of human beings-—what makes them “flourish and free and exceptional” and God’s Laws (the Designer of Nature) which makes the Decalogue relevant and in our courts.
Laws need to promote the Natural Duty of people in keeping Social contracts which encourage them to be “virtuous” and do their duty to society-—which includes the marriage of the two people who produce offspring. It is the Natural Duty of people to care for their own offspring until adulthood.
Libertarians have to have some type of organization with a “Rule of Law” which always means a “Higher” Law, than man-made up “rules” which are irrational or give special rights to some over others.
There can be no promotion of sodomy in “Just” laws-—or an undermining of the Natural Rights of children to be raised by their biological parents. It makes children into slaves to be bought or sold and women into breeders if the Marriage Contract is not between a male and female (and it is irrational if it is “two” men).
Right Reason is ALWAYS necessary for all “Just” Law. Libertarians should at least believe in Reason which requires a belief in Natural Law Theory (where Science originated).
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