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Carpenter's Wife Returns to Megachurch He Rebukes Christian Leaders Who Supported Divorce
Christian Post ^ | February 17, 2014 | Nicola Menzie

Posted on 02/20/2014 4:40:53 PM PST by Gamecock

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To: Gamecock

He’s married to her forever anyway, man’s laws be damned, but he could remain separated from her and chaste, and that’s still married and not sinning.

But heck, might as well try to work it out. Adult kids are involved. It took 23 years to make this divorce, and they need to finally resolve what led to her feeling ‘what the heck, I deserve it (affair)’.

They have real problems to resolve and real hurts to acknowledge and forgive. Mother Angelica says you get humility from humiliation. They both need total humility and I’d say this great humiliation was a good start. Now they need to humiliate themselves before one another, get the real issues out, and work them through.

Yes, Christians should have encouraged this as part of their basic hope....like the pope keeps saying.


21 posted on 02/20/2014 8:07:07 PM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: BarbM

Yes, marriage is for life.


22 posted on 02/20/2014 9:06:57 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: liege
Still, I would not remarry.

That's what I said...I was wrong...I suspect most people say that...

23 posted on 02/20/2014 11:08:39 PM PST by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It

Right after this story of her infidelity broke, I heard this pastor on local talk radio basically saying there had a history of this behavior with her and I was under the impression he knew about most of them but I think the last trist must have been a doosey. He choose his words carefully on that radio show but it sure was clear she was a tramp....well, my word


24 posted on 02/21/2014 5:36:47 AM PST by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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To: 4everontheRight

Well bless both their hearts!


25 posted on 02/21/2014 6:07:45 AM PST by Gamecock (Grace is not opposed to human activity. It's opposed to human merit. MSH)
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To: Resettozero

Dragonblustar is not a pastor nor does she lead a congregation at a mega church. Her comments are in a thread which has less than a handful of readers.


26 posted on 02/21/2014 6:58:27 AM PST by dragonblustar (Psalm 37:7)
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To: BarbM
To you non-Catholics, does His words really mean that?

"But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.- Matthew 5:28"

How many married men have looked at another woman lustfully, catholic or otherwise?

Here are some things to remember.

"If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. - John 1:8

"“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven". -Luke 6:37

"5 For Moses writes about the righteousness that is based on the law, that the person who does the commandments shall live by them. 6 But the righteousness based on faith says, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’” (that is, to bring Christ down) 7 “or ‘Who will descend into the abyss?’” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). 8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); 9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11 For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”-Romans 5-13

27 posted on 02/21/2014 7:23:47 AM PST by dragonblustar (Psalm 37:7)
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To: Gamecock

I hope they do stay together and their marriage is repaired. But why is he still pastoring the church?


28 posted on 02/21/2014 7:25:28 AM PST by opus86
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To: dragonblustar
Her comments are in a thread which has less than a handful of readers.

dragonblustar does not know that many FReepers including Resettozero receive access to most if not ALL Free Republic threads. As for your PRIVATE thread, that's news to me. How did you set that up?
29 posted on 02/21/2014 8:23:49 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

Sorry, but I fail to see your point, R2Z. You seem to be equating a comment on a thread with a rebuke from the pulpit.

Kind of like a bible study discussion being confused with a pontifical pronouncement.


30 posted on 02/21/2014 8:34:10 AM PST by MortMan (Is a delayed shower a "stay of exablution"?)
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Resettozero receive access to most if not ALL Free Republic threads

So, why have you diverted from the topic of this thread and made it all about you? Are you a troll or just in desperate need of attention?

31 posted on 02/21/2014 8:37:42 AM PST by dragonblustar (Psalm 37:7)
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To: MortMan
Sorry, but I fail to see your point, R2Z. You seem to be equating a comment on a thread with a rebuke from the pulpit. Kind of like a bible study discussion being confused with a pontifical pronouncement.

I understand each individual word you wrote but I wish I knew what theology you were talking about. What ARE you talking about? And why to me? And if I do not believe Pastor Ron's comments, what is that to you?
32 posted on 02/21/2014 8:46:20 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: dragonblustar
So, why have you diverted from the topic of this thread and made it all about you? Are you a troll or just in desperate need of attention?

Your first post to me on this thread hijacked the thread. I have responded to your posts to me, even this uncivil one, dragonblustar. R2z
33 posted on 02/21/2014 8:50:35 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: dragonblustar
Pastor Ron sounds passive aggressive. He could have said these things in private.

And mess up a great marketing opportunity?

34 posted on 02/21/2014 8:55:41 AM PST by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: Resettozero

Let me be clear. I am asking why it appears you are attacking Dragonblustar for expressing her opinion on a thread designed for that very act.

As I have read the exchanges between the two of you, I did not see any evidence of your expressing doubts over the pastor’s words from the pulpit, but rather a zeal to try and convict Dragonblustar for having the temerity to suggest that the pulpit was the wrong place to excoriate the church elders for supporting him, when he has decided his earlier position was wrong.

It’s not personal - just curious as to why you feel this discourse is important.


35 posted on 02/21/2014 8:57:44 AM PST by MortMan (Is a delayed shower a "stay of exablution"?)
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To: Resettozero

True, I posted to you, about the topic of this thread but you made this personal then tried to make about yourself.


36 posted on 02/21/2014 8:58:27 AM PST by dragonblustar (Psalm 37:7)
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To: MortMan
Let me be clear. I am asking why it appears you are attacking Dragonblustar for expressing her opinion on a thread designed for that very act.

As I have read the exchanges between the two of you, I did not see any evidence of your expressing doubts over the pastor’s words from the pulpit, but rather a zeal to try and convict Dragonblustar for having the temerity to suggest that the pulpit was the wrong place to excoriate the church elders for supporting him, when he has decided his earlier position was wrong.

It’s not personal - just curious as to why you feel this discourse is important.


Thank you for being clear. Now I understand what you are talking about. Your presumptions are all incorrect.
37 posted on 02/21/2014 9:08:46 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: dragonblustar
True, I posted to you, about the topic of this thread but you made this personal then tried to make about yourself.

Deny entirely.
38 posted on 02/21/2014 9:11:10 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

As is your definition of “presumption”. Have a good day. Obviously, you are uninterested in any discourse on this subject.


39 posted on 02/21/2014 9:27:28 AM PST by MortMan (Is a delayed shower a "stay of exablution"?)
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To: MortMan
As is your definition of “presumption”. Have a good day. Obviously, you are uninterested in any discourse on this subject.

I stand by the wording I chose. Even more so after reading your next unFRiendly post.

"Have a good day" sounds more like a curse when you say it.

What you mean by "discourse" and "this subject" remains unclear, MortMan.

R2z

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40 posted on 02/21/2014 9:43:31 AM PST by Resettozero
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