Posted on 02/24/2014 5:51:18 AM PST by xzins
Jesus Christ would absolutely bake a cake for a gay person. He’d bake a cake for a straight person. He’d bake a cake for a girl, a boy, a person who isn’t sure what they are, a black person, a white person — Jesus would bake that cake if it, in some way large or small, drew that person closer to Him.
And Christians should too.
Christians should show love and compassion to gays, straights, and everyone else. Christians should show God’s love in hopes of drawing people to a relationship with Christ. 95% of that may just be relationship building, but it should still be done.
If a Christian owns a bakery or a florist shop or a photography shop or a diner, a Christian should no more be allowed to deny service to a gay person than to a black person. It is against the tenets of 2000 years of orthodox Christian faith, no matter how poorly some Christians have practiced their faith over two millennia.
And honestly, I don’t know that I know anyone who disagrees with any of this.
The disagreement comes on one issue only — should a Christian provide goods and services to a gay wedding. That’s it. We’re not talking about serving a meal at a restaurant. We’re not talking about baking a cake for a birthday party. We’re talking about a wedding, which millions of Christians view as a sacrament of the faith and other, mostly Protestant Christians, view as a relationship ordained by God to reflect a holy relationship.
This slope is only slippery if you grease it with hypotheticals not in play.
There are Christians who have no problem providing goods and services for a gay marriage. Some of them are fine with gay marriage. Some of them think gay marriage is wrong, but they still have no problem providing goods and services.
Other Christians, including a significant number of Catholic and Protestant preachers, believe that a gay marriage is a sinful corruption of a relationship God himself ordained. Because they try to glorify God through their work, they believe they cannot participate in a wedding service. Yes, because they believe they are glorifying God in their work and view it as a ministry, they view providing goods and services as a way to advance, even in a small way, God’s kingdom.
Herein lies the dispute of the day. The latter group does not stand in the way of the former group providing cakes, flowers, and pictures for a gay wedding. Some of the former, however, believe the government should compel the latter group to violate their conscience. They only see the transaction through the customer’s eyes as if the vendors are passive participants.
That’s the problem.
We are not talking about race. We are not talking about restaurants. We are talking about a specific ceremony people of faith believe God himself created and ordained. Should the state force people to violate their conscience in that regard?
It is not staggering that there are aggrieved gay rights activists who think the state should be able to force people to recognize as normal that which most Christians view as sinful. What is staggering is the number of Christians who apparently think the State has the right to decide and enforce this issue.
You might think Jesus would bake a cake for a gay wedding. I think you are wrong. I do not think Jesus Christ would participate in the ratification of a sin — and a marriage between two people of the same sex is a sin. Are you really going to tell the millions of Christians in the United States who think otherwise that not only are they wrong, but the state should be able to force your opinion of what Jesus would do on them? In your pride, you might think 2000 years of Christian orthodoxy and the majority of practicing Christians in the world today are wrong — but don’t think among people of practicing Christian faith you are in the majority.
I understand if you are not a believer and define yourself based on your sexual preference that you think the government should legitimize you by forcing others to treat you in a particular way. But it boggles my mind to think any Christian should want the government to force their view of Christianity on another believer.
If you think the government should be able to force Christians to provide goods and services to a gay wedding or risk losing their business, why not command a preacher’s service? If a Christian baker cannot opt out, why should a preacher be able to opt out? And why not take from churches their tax exempt status if they fail to participate?
Christians should serve. But the government should not force them to.
It’s kind in the long term to tell the truth. Because Christians who stumble over their own feet because of anxiety-based responses to Satan nipping at them, don’t do a lot of good.
I refuse to accept the stupid premise that Christ baked cakes. Did he use commercial mixes or his own recipe?
I’ve never understood how some (fortunately, very few) on this site attempt to justify some of their beliefs.
And that’s the ultimate point. Context should be taken in account, and please we should not assume the author is being inconsistent. Christ would resist the mis-purposing of the creation.
Why don’t you give some examples instead of casting vague aspersions.
But this is so damned silly. The title of the piece actually embarrassed me!
I think you’re doing just fine without my help.
So, you don’t accept any attempt to explain one’s thoughts?
Using stories and parallels to get one’s point across is beyond the pale?
I hear you. It’s ridiculous.
Now you are really being vague. Are you casting an aspersion at me?
Christ is in every believer, so the question is perfectly sensible.
I am afraid, trisham, it is you who are being superficial.
Ah, another example of your Christian love for your fellow man. Well done.
Christ would not bake a cake for ANY wedding. He may however urge humans to reflect on how much is spent on many modern “weddings” by both gay and straight couples while they “mock” the sacrament they are entering into.
Why would I do that?
Telling what Jesus would do without using scripture to support it is like oabma saying hit is a constitutional scholar without having ever read the US Constitution.
We know Christ roasted fish. Why would he not bake?
We need some photoshopping on this!
John 21: The other disciples followed in the boat, towing the net full of fish, for they were not far from shore, about a hundred yards. 9 When they landed, they saw a fire of burning coals there with fish on it, and some bread.
The point is not about whether or not he would or could cook… it is more a question of would he celebrate ( baking a cake is participation in the wedding celebration) the union of couples who are ignorant of the divine nature of the sacrament and the sacrifice of self that is required for marriage.
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