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To: NYer

Well, I suggest they have the priest treat the Eucharist as if it is God, since it is. Otherwise, there will continue to be a huge lack of interest. The problem isn’t the congregation, the problem is their lack of formation.

If mass was reverent, people would believe there was a reason to attend. I make it my business to go and to ignore all the distractions and just focus on the Eucharist, but the insults to Our Lord every Mass I attend are maddening.

People are not interested in attending a Mass in which there is no one of authority present, convinced of the presence of Jesus.

They see no reason to spend two hours per week, not even per year, to go.

I went to mass on Christmas, in the northeast. I was with four families. Every one of the families had kids, every person has had all the sacraments, except matrimony. Two out of four married in the Church. Every one had Catholicism in their families going back to St. Patrick, who converted their ancestors in the late 300s - Their Catholicism goes back seventeen HUNDRED years. Seventeen hundred years, and I knew all of their parents, grand parents and great grandparents, or knew of them. They all attended Mass weekly. Every healthy week of their lives, some live to the age of 90 and wen to church ever week.

None of these people I was with went to mass the last Sunday of Advent. Non e of the kids knew we were in Advent or what Advent was. There wasn’t a crucifix, an image of the Blessed mother, and image of Jesus in the house. a ten thousand square foot house with two Range Rovers, two Porches, a Saab and a Volvo in the driveway. Not a rosary in the house, except for mine.

The only people who wen to mass on Christmas were the hosts, who couldn’t let me go without going themselves, and their kids were so tortured going to mass that I am still in amazement. the rec room at the church where this overflow mass was, was so hot from being unusually full, that I watched for fainters. Not one of the working billionaire CEOs in that room had enough familiarity with the workings of that Church to open a window.

The priest mad a joke of communion.

What is the story?

The USCCB is so busy writing to the president about what a horrible country the US is for not taking care of illegal Mexican immigrants, who, they are too ignorant to realize, BTW, would seal abortion into our culture with their friends, the democrats, that they can’t see this situation.

they come up with this lame idea to bring people to this Church? Pretending what? That if they play better music than the Baptists that they’ll attract people? That if the Priest makes better jokes than Jimmy Kimmel people will come?

They’ll ignore the organ pipes and the communion rail. they’ll put out of their minds that the greatest music came from and about Catholics - Mozart, Lizt, Handel, Greig, Bach. that there are seven versions of Ave Maria I can think of just sitting here.

THey’ll spend ten minutes of the congregation’s otherwise attentive time gathering scantily clad women and denim wearing men up onto the altar to distribute to them communion before anyone ever gets up.

No teen in their right mind will truly be impressed with this rejection of the reverence that once was.

They altered the Mass a few years ago, pretending they were doing enough to correctly interpret Vatican II. Fail.

The Masses that the men attend around here are the Latin Msses, Novus Ordo and Tridentine. THey don’t care, they are looking for reverence.

And they will never like the music, and they will continue to loathe the handshake. men are not convinced if the hierarchy is not convinced. And kids will not be convinced if their dads are not convinced.

And that cycle will continue until it is fixed. But these dads I visited have absolutely no authority over their kids nor their wives, because they give no example themselves of ceding to the authority of God. And their wives certainly won’t.


5 posted on 03/16/2014 10:37:49 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

“The problem isn’t the congregation, the problem is their lack of formation.”

Then the problem is the congregation. There is barely a congregation within the defined borders of these parishes. They have all moved to the suburbs or died off. Many of the rest have simply left the practice of the faith. You can’t form them if they aren’t there.


8 posted on 03/16/2014 12:25:46 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: stanne

You speak the truth!


12 posted on 03/17/2014 7:06:03 AM PDT by NewCenturions
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