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The Muslims Will Invade The Vatican, And Try to Destroy The Roman Catholic Church
Shoebat.com ^ | April 12, 2014 | Theodore Shoebat

Posted on 04/12/2014 9:30:55 PM PDT by Rashputin

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To: elcid1970
During Haj because maximum death is the only thing they understand; outside Haj is a kindness and therefore a weakness. Total war is brutal for a reason: it saves lives in the long run.

Do not want an increase in abandonment, want absolute and immediate abandonment.

Rome only needs to be destroyed for it to be counted as a conquest. Nuking will do nicely for them, and Iran has the solution, and it will encourage the Little Guy to climb out of the Well to begin the total extinction of the human race, aka bringing everyone to Paradise.

Its not the numbers of Paks who die as martyrs by enraged Hindus, its the mass of pagans dead that counts for the muslims.

Turkey is not an issue. The muslims already control it.

NATO is not an issue. In this scenario Mecca and Medina are already gone. NATO’s role, if any, is limited to helping the Italian survivors.

The article specifically states that after Jerusalem, Rome is next. NYC is and has been a target, albeit a modern one - although it could be looked on as the seat of the hated Jewish bankers. All these are righteous targets and, if the jihadis follow their usual pattern, all three will be hit simultaneously and NOTE: without warning. Therefore, hit them hard and brutally first, before they do it to us, which they will.

If the West actually wants to win the war, and not a battle or a skirmish here and there, it (we) must stop thinking like kindly Christians, and learn to think like the Islamic enemy; short of that is a further prescription for a continued war and eventual defeat.

And think about this: each world war has seen increased casualties, with WWII reaching hundreds of millions, counting all those killed by socialists before, during, and after WWII. The next war, if the West continues to not name the enemy and uses the kinder, gentler approach, will see deaths in the billions.

41 posted on 04/13/2014 7:37:17 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Salvation

Your words, not mine, nor do I believe your false testimony.

I’m sorry Salvation, I can’t help you, I’ve tried in the past, you’re too entrenched.

The evidence is out there, but you’re not willing to look at it.


42 posted on 04/13/2014 7:38:26 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: delchiante

No, I would say it’s not. It’s going to be interesting to see the developments coming our way in short order.

I just pray that God gives me the strength to do what’s right and I will not buckle in the face of evil.


43 posted on 04/13/2014 7:40:14 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf
Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

44 posted on 04/13/2014 7:44:54 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Thank you.


45 posted on 04/13/2014 8:33:27 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Catholics are Christians.


46 posted on 04/13/2014 9:06:10 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Rashputin
"We are only five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America."

Even a stopped clock, or a pathological liar....

47 posted on 04/13/2014 9:13:09 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: sakic

Were you there?


48 posted on 04/13/2014 9:23:25 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray/Penance. Isa 5:18-21,10:1-3 "Tempus faciendi, Domine, dissipaverunt legem tuam")
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To: Bulwyf

Will you share your testimony?

How you came to Christ?

And feel free to post all the evidence you want.

Waiting for it.


49 posted on 04/13/2014 9:28:57 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray/Penance. Isa 5:18-21,10:1-3 "Tempus faciendi, Domine, dissipaverunt legem tuam")
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To: sakic

“Defending the Crusades casts doubt on one’s ability to think and their overall intentions.”

Only in the minds of twits. People who can reason understand that just wars - wars fought to defend the innocent and reclaim territory lost to invaders - are by definition just.


50 posted on 04/13/2014 9:41:21 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: ebb tide
Catholics are Christians.

Salvation knows that ... she is Catholic.

51 posted on 04/13/2014 9:54:09 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: al_c

Then why did she say this, “Will this event unite the Christians with the Catholics?”


52 posted on 04/13/2014 9:57:32 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: AliVeritas

I asked Jesus into my heart when I was five, my mother, dad and I prayed together. I was raised in a Christian home, having church on Sunday mornings and Sunday school. As I got older that turned into youth group. I was baptized when I was 17, because of the gift of salvation.

I later became a youth sponsor and worked with the youth pastor in my church, then after moving ended up in the Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry. I served with second battalion. I probably wasn’t the best example as a Christian there given my behavior with women. I tripped over that sin a lot. God spared me through three tours, nothing short of a miracle especially on one patrol.

I got married when I was still in to a military dental lady, she was raised Catholic but not believing when I met her. We started having kids all the way up to three. We ended up separated for three years. By the grace of God a his love, the marriage is back together and she believes.

My challenge now is to make sure I’m always on fire for Jesus, that when people observe my life they will know. I want to make my little light shine bright in the dark. I have a household to lead, the responsibility of my wife and kids are my own under God. God expects big things from me and I am going to strive to live to his word and truth.

I am not perfect, I am not all knowing, but I through him all things are possible.

I will continue to point out false religions, not because I’m a Jerk, not because I don’t like someone, rather because I love people and want to see God’s best for them. I don’t expect to change minds or hearts, but the Holy spirit can and will if you will allow him.

We live in a time where Christians are becoming few and far between in North America and a great revival is needed if we are to save our countries.


53 posted on 04/13/2014 10:05:10 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Salvation

Amen! Praise Jesus!


54 posted on 04/13/2014 10:23:57 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: vladimir998

Amen


55 posted on 04/13/2014 10:27:07 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: elcid1970
As for the Islamic conquest of Rome, won’t that bring in Italy’s NATO allies as well? As for the mighty Turkish navy, they can’t even scare the Jews in Israel. Turkey’s military had best stick to its role as guarantor of good government in Ankara. Israel is a far more righteous target for the muzzies than Rome

Shoebat is a Catholic moonbat.

56 posted on 04/13/2014 10:34:25 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Salvation; Bulwyf
The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ, fully human and fully God....Why do you choose to deride Christ by saying he is only a man?

Your logic is based upon the fallacious premise that the Catholic Church (which exists in divisions) is the NT church.

But the faith which was once delivered to the saints, as manifest in the NT was one that

1. Never had any pastors titled "priests" as they did not engage in any unique sacrificial function, that of turning bread into human flesh and dispensing it to the people.

2. Never differentiated between bishops and elders, and with grand titles ("Most Reverend Eminence," “Very Reverend,” “Most Illustrious and Most Reverend Lord,” “His Eminence Cardinal,” “The Most Reverend the Archbishop,” etc.) or made such distinct by their ostentatious pompous garb. (Matthew 23:5-7)

3. Never had apostles preaching receiving the Eucharist as the means by which one received spiritual life in themselves, so that without which eating one cannot have eternal life (as per RC literalism, of Jn. 6:53,54), versus believing the gospel, and the Lord's supper as focusing on the church being the body of Christ in showing the Lord sacrificial death by that communal meal.

4. Never required clerical celibacy as the norm, (1Tim. 3:17) which presumes all such have that gift.

5. Never promised a perpetual assuredly (if conditionally) infallible magisterium, or taught this is necessary for preservation of truth, including writings to be established as Scripture, and for assurance of faith, and that historical descent and being the steward of Scripture assured they had assured infallibility.

6. Never manifested where Peter is confirmed to be the "rock" of Mt. 16:18 upon which the church is built, rather than upon the rock of the faith confessed by Peter, thus Christ Himself.

7. Never taught or exampled that all the churches were to look to Peter as the bishop of Rome, as the first of a line of supreme heads reigning over all the churches, and having the last word in questions affecting the whole Church.

8. Never recorded or taught any apostolic successors (like for James: Acts 12:1,2) besides for Judas (who was to maintain the original 12: Rv. 21:14) and who was elected by voting, versus casting lots (no politics). (Acts 1:15ff)

9. Never recorded or manifested (not by conjecture) sprinkling or baptism without repentant personal faith, that being the stated requirement for baptism. (Acts 2:38; 8:36-38)

10. Never preached a gospel of salvation which begins with becoming good enough inside (formally justified due to infused interior charity), via sprinkling or baptism in recognition of proxy faith, and which usually ends with becoming good enough to enter glory via suffering in purgatory, commencing at death.

11. Never had a separate class of believers called “saints.”

12. Never prayed to anyone in Heaven but the Lord, or were instructed to (i.e. "our Mother who art in Heaven) who were able to hear and respond to virtually unlimited prayers addressed to them.

13. Never recorded a women who never sinned, and was a perpetual virgin despite being married (contrary to the normal description of marriage, as leave and cleave. ) and who would be bodily assumed to Heaven and exalted as a demigoddess. All of which conspicuous absence is not characteristic of Holy Spirit who reveals notable aspects of its significant subjects, from long life, to escaping death or being bodily assumed to God, to extra toes, to unique diets, to being sinless, etc.

14. Never supported or made laws that restricted personal reading of Scripture by laity (contrary to Chrysostom), if able and available, sometimes even outlawing it when it was.

15. Never used the sword of men to deal with its theological dissenters.

16. Never taught that the deity Muslims worship (who is not as an unknown god) is the same as theirs.

I could go on, but this should suffice for now, and its late.


57 posted on 04/13/2014 10:38:29 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Bulwyf; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; CynicalBear; mitch5501; ...
SHOEBAT EXCLUSIVE By Theodore Shoebat I remember a few years ago spending time with an Evangelical friend of mine. Within our conversation, somehow, the subject of the Crusades came up. Of course, I defended the Crusades, explaining that they were fighting off Islamic invaders in the Middle East. He, on the other hand, vehemently condemned the Crusaders as evil and barbarous people. I asked him, “Who would you rather win, the Muslims or the Crusaders?” He said, with a tone of vitriol, “It doesn’t matter, they are both the same! I would not care at all if the Muslims invaded the Vatican, the Catholics are just as evil.” ..."This is the predicament that we are in. While the Vatican is hated as the Harlot of Babylon, the Muslims are currently conspiring to take over and destroy Rome. And many would not have a problem with this."

That’s why those two man made religions will be one and the same before the end times hit.

The CCC, which we have been told all contains infallible teaching of Rome, already affirms:

"...the Mohammedans...along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind. - CCC 841 http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a9p3.htm; http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decree_19641121_unitatis-redintegratio_en.html

58 posted on 04/13/2014 10:44:49 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: metmom
I don’t see the takeover as military action but (for lack of a better word) philosophical.

No philosophy required; the issue is biological. How far below replacement is the Italian birthrate these days?

People ignored and laughed at the Popes over birth control, but they were stating the simple truth. Birth control and loose sex leads to the extinction of nations. The process is already far advanced.

59 posted on 04/13/2014 11:05:43 AM PDT by Campion
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To: daniel1212

Thank you, Daniel for making this simple enough for a chld to know the truth. I appreciate your work.


60 posted on 04/13/2014 11:11:07 AM PDT by MamaB
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