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To: cva66snipe
So then you would saying what you did deny that both Paul and Peter were lead by The Holy Spirit?

Now where do you get that?

Churches can be in error . ..That is why The Holy Spirit which dwells in believers was given.

So you don't err and still claim to speak for the Holy Spirit? Are you your own 'church'? Or is it just that you can't be in error because you're not a 'church'? Churches err and you don't? What's your position here?

75 posted on 04/21/2014 3:10:04 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
Now where do you get that?

Well both Peter & Paul were filled with The Holy Spirit and they did have some disagreements in opinions. Such disagreements have always existed. Eventually Peter was corrected by both Paul and The Holy Spirit. Did it mean one or the other was condemned? No. Did it mean either one was out of GOD's favor? No. Peter had a hard time putting behind him the Jewish laws and traditions.

So you don't err and still claim to speak for the Holy Spirit? Are you your own 'church'? Or is it just that you can't be in error because you're not a 'church'? Churches err and you don't? What's your position here?

My position is I'm a sinner dependent upon salvation by Grace through faith that Jesus Christ alone paid the price in full for my sins. Yet I still fail every day as I'm human. So is your Pope and Priest. So are the Preachers in churches I've attended. We all fall short that is why we need a savior. Church leaders can and do err because they are human beings.

I don't speak for The Holy Spirit. But I do try and listen to and obey The Holy Spirit especially in critical decisions so I know what GOD wants me to do.

A church? What is a church? Where two or more gather in Christ name that is a church and He is there also. Now what is a Temple in the sense of the new order Christ established?

1 Corinthians 3:16
Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in your midst?

Or care to explain this?

Romans ch 8 And the Holy Spirit helps us in our weakness. For example, we don't know what God wants us to pray for. But the Holy Spirit prays for us with groanings that cannot be expressed in words.

Romans Chapter 1.

86 posted on 04/21/2014 5:44:28 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: D-fendr
So you don't err and still claim to speak for the Holy Spirit?



Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

98 posted on 04/21/2014 8:37:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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