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Posted on 04/24/2014 8:00:18 AM PDT by fishtank
James Ussher and His Chronology: Reasonable or Ridiculous?
by Jerry Bergman, Ph.D. *
Introduction
Archbishop James Ussher (1581–1656) was one of the most important biblical scholars of the 17th century. His research and scholarly work have even earned high praise from some who are opposed to his conclusions. Called “the greatest luminary of the church of Ireland” and “one of the greatest scholars of his day in the Christian Church,” his work has influenced generations of Christian thinkers with a force still felt today.1
An expert on the writings of the early church fathers, Ussher majorly impacted Reformation theology. The 18-volume set titled The Whole Works of James Ussher contains his most important writings.2 Today, he is best known for his chronology research that concluded Adam was created in 4004 B.C. Consequently, anti-creationists heavily criticize him, often picturing him as naive, ignorant, anti-science, and someone whose research was superficial and based solely on the biblical record.3
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If you throw out Genesis, the atheists won’t let you keep the Gospels.
“of mankind”.
>> “Ussher’s thesis was nothing more than a compilation of dates given their Hebrew reckoning in conjunction with other calendars of antiquity. His supposition was a 365 day year. The Jews has no such timing. A year was loosely based upon phases of the moon.” <<
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There is so much wrong in that blast that I don’t know where to start.
Ussher’s analysis of the genealogical facts of the Bible was complex, and involved factoring in prophetic statements on individuals who were to be omitted from genealogies.
The length of the year actually evens out over long periods, and there is absolutely nothing “loose” about the Biblical calendar, which is quite precisely set by new moons, and is adjusted based on the ripeness of the barley crop each and every year, so that the Adar Bet is implemented at the correct time to keep the Biblical year in sync with the actual seasons.
This jogging of the new year is important to many prophecies, and is useful to identify precise periods in Bible history to mathematically prove them at our present time.
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>> “That does not change the fact that salvation is predicated upon confession of the Lord Jesus Christ and belief that God has raised him from the dead.” <<
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Your understanding of the basis of salvation is rather truncated, and would benefit from a careful reading of Peter’s first epistle, which expresses the conditions upon which our FUTURE salvation will depend.
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What if he throws out the whole Bible as too “loose” to be believable?
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As a “professional engineer” you should recognize the error in this graph and how it is deceptive.
Who is throwing out Genesis? I believe it entirely and have debated many cultists on the truths therein.
My link on post 6 does a very good analysis of Ussher. The man was amazingly brilliant to throw his works out lightly. You see the world as very old but Jesus obviously believed the flood was a real event that took place and the collective memory of mankind retains aspects of it around the globe. That cataclysmic event made the earth look old.
Num 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
He didn’t lie. He couldn’t, it’s not in His nature.
Since there is no evidence of a world wide inundation within human memory then you must be misinterpreting what He said.
“you must be misinterpreting what He said.”
Mat_24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mat_24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them
Luk_17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
Luk_17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
Heb_11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
1Pe_3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
2Pe_2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
I see that today we are using the logical fallacy of an appeal to authority/tradition. Isn’t that kind of like the fallacy of “settled science” that the global warming folks. Just because Newton (or Darwin for that matter) says something doesn’t mean it can’t or shouldn’t be challenged.
If you think Peter wrote heresy you are in big trouble for sure!
Never said he did. Peter never once indicated that you had to wait for a future salvation. He knew it came at the moment of rebirth/conversion.
The world is completely covered with the evidence of the flood. It is the dominant characteristic of our geography.
1Pet.1
[1] Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
[2] Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
[3] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
[4] To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
[5] Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
[6] Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
[7] That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
[8] Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
[9] Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
[10] Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
[11] Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
[12] Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
[13] Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
If you cannot see the future tense of all that he presents, then try this from the mouth of Yeshua himself:
Matthew 24:
[12] And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. [13] But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Nowhere in the word is salvation promised before we meet him at the end.
Said the great deceiver himself.
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