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James Ussher and His Chronology: Reasonable or Ridiculous?
Institute for Creation Research ^ | 4-24-2014 | Jerry Bergman, Ph.D.

Posted on 04/24/2014 8:00:18 AM PDT by fishtank

James Ussher and His Chronology: Reasonable or Ridiculous?

by Jerry Bergman, Ph.D. *

Introduction

Archbishop James Ussher (1581–1656) was one of the most important biblical scholars of the 17th century. His research and scholarly work have even earned high praise from some who are opposed to his conclusions. Called “the greatest luminary of the church of Ireland” and “one of the greatest scholars of his day in the Christian Church,” his work has influenced generations of Christian thinkers with a force still felt today.1

An expert on the writings of the early church fathers, Ussher majorly impacted Reformation theology. The 18-volume set titled The Whole Works of James Ussher contains his most important writings.2 Today, he is best known for his chronology research that concluded Adam was created in 4004 B.C. Consequently, anti-creationists heavily criticize him, often picturing him as naive, ignorant, anti-science, and someone whose research was superficial and based solely on the biblical record.3

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TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: creation; ussher
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To: editor-surveyor

Trust me, I have read what Peter wrote. I have taught on what Peter wrote. Peter is not talking about gaining salvation at a later date. The realization of salvation comes when we meet Christ, either in death or at the Glorious Appearing. Peter’s epistle is encouraging those being persecuted to endure their suffering. Why is that so hard for you to understand?


41 posted on 04/24/2014 3:24:09 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: editor-surveyor

The “great deceiver” - wow - that’s quite a step up for me. So I guess you don’t see the fundamental flaw in this graph, either.


42 posted on 04/24/2014 3:30:16 PM PDT by stormer
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To: fishtank

LOL. It’s a shame he wasted that education.


43 posted on 04/24/2014 3:35:10 PM PDT by stormer
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To: editor-surveyor

Then you live on another planet.


44 posted on 04/24/2014 3:50:07 PM PDT by DManA
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To: rjsimmon

No peter taught that we gain salvation by following his commandments through faith to the end.

Yeshua stated that “the faith of many shall wax cold.”

We meet Yeshua, through death or living to the last trump, either way, at the end. Paul taught the same.

Paul and James were also clear that only those that are doers, not just readers, will be justified.


45 posted on 04/24/2014 3:54:27 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: stormer

The graph is a reasonable regression.


46 posted on 04/24/2014 3:55:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DManA

From you, I dearly hope!


47 posted on 04/24/2014 3:56:10 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

But it has nothing to do with the age of the Earth.


48 posted on 04/24/2014 4:14:19 PM PDT by DManA
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To: editor-surveyor; rjsimmon
If you cannot see the future tense of all that he presents, then try this from the mouth of Yeshua himself:

Your tenses are utterly confused. Most of what Peter here has written is in the present tense, which is that for those who have the gift of salvation, it is an action in process from the moment it was initiated by God. Your premise is wholly grammatically incorrect and therefore invalid.

You'd better think this through. God's plan is to effect a general salvation prepared before Adam sinned. Since that time, every descendant of Adam exercising committed trust in The Faith of Jehovah Jesus has a portion of that plan which exists, is not now seen, but which will be unveiled at the consummation of the plan.

Each person receiving that gift is the one whom The God, through foreknowledge, discerns the moment of irreversible commitment of oneself into the care of the Saving One.

This person is thus instantaneously freed from guilt and death by The God's declaration, on the basis of Christ's righteousness imputed to him, and receives eternal life.

Justification is inatantaneous, but unearned salvation and rewarded sanctification are processes.

You might want to get out your NT Greek grammar book.

49 posted on 04/25/2014 2:56:07 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: editor-surveyor
No peter taught that we gain salvation by following his commandments through faith to the end.

No, first you obtain it as a gift of The God (Eph. 2:8-9), then you work it out as an occupation (Eph. 2:10, Phil. 2:12), as a son and servant.

50 posted on 04/25/2014 3:13:43 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: editor-surveyor
The graph is a reasonable regression.

Give the reason. Cite any Scriptural model as the basis for your reasonings.

51 posted on 04/25/2014 3:21:25 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

No,no one obtains salvation until we meet at the last trump.

That is what Yeshua said and what all of the apostles repeated in their writings.

Yeshua said plainly that the faith of many would wax cold, depriving them of their chance at salvation.

In Matthew 7 he said that many that had openly confessed him in their daily lives, and worked in the gifts of the spirit would fall short.

You have to read the word to understand it.

The fact that you believe that you’ve already obtained salvation is a strong indication that you will fall short.

You are asking “grace” to cover for systematic disobedience of his commandments, and essentially a total lack of faith.
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52 posted on 04/27/2014 4:36:30 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: imardmd1

A scriptural reason for a mathematical operation?

Facetious.
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53 posted on 04/27/2014 4:37:38 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: imardmd1

More nonsense.


54 posted on 04/27/2014 4:38:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DManA

Since the creation of all space and matter is a part of Genesis 1, it has everything to do with it.

Time/space did not exist prior to the events of Genesis 1.
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55 posted on 04/27/2014 4:41:59 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: fishtank

It is amazing how few people understand the striking differences between the bottom of the grand canyon, where the errosion through bedrock has dug only a few feet in four millennia, and the upper portion, where water cut through wet debris in weeks, or even days.
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56 posted on 04/27/2014 4:52:11 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
You have to read the word to understand it.

OK, I challenge you to explain 1 John 3:9.

πας ο γεγεννημενος εκ του θεου αμαρτιαν ου ποιει οτι σπερμα αυτου εν αυτω μενει και ου δυναται αμαρτανειν οτι εκ του θεου γεγεννηται. (Textus Receptus, Robinson & Pierpont Byzantine/Majority Textform, Nestle-Aland Critical Text; all are identical in this passage)

Whosoever is born of God committeth not sin: for his seed abideth in him. And he cannot sin, because he is born of God. (DRB)

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. (AV)

Then relate it to verse 10, and to Ephesians 2:8-10.

What part of salvation is earned by your efforts?

57 posted on 04/27/2014 9:04:02 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: editor-surveyor
A scriptural reason for a mathematical operation?

Facetious.

OK. Gere's a couple of equations:

(1) Faith + Works = Salvation

(2) Faith + Salvation = Works

Which one is true?

58 posted on 04/27/2014 9:14:45 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

Neither is true.


59 posted on 04/28/2014 8:21:28 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: imardmd1

Are you then admitting that you do not belong to him?

Obviously you still sin copiously, right?

Why do you clip 1John down to one verse?
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60 posted on 04/28/2014 8:24:21 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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