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Shouldn't Bible-believing church leaders be speaking up on "sainthood"? (vanity)

Posted on 04/27/2014 3:47:28 PM PDT by Faith Presses On

With it so much in the news right now that the Catholic Church is making two former Popes "saints." shouldn't Bible-believing Christians, and those in leadership in particular, be pointing out the Bible truth on who is a saint is? The media won't do this themselves, and the Catholic use of "saint" has caused a lot of ignorance on this most important matter.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: christiansaresaints; romancatholicism; sainthood; saintsinephesus; saintsinrome; saintssaluteyou; sectarianturmoil
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To: Vermont Lt

I agree to leave the matter of Catholic Saints up to the Catholics.

But as equally bothersome is your “bible thumpers” comment.

It certainly isn’t your job to throw that insult around.


21 posted on 04/27/2014 4:17:08 PM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: Vermont Lt

Great post!


22 posted on 04/27/2014 4:18:06 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: RaceBannon

“When someone hijacks the word, it becomes our business”

So the religion that essentially compiled the bible that you read, “hijacked” the word?

You wouldn’t have a Bible or the “Word”, had it not been for the Catholic Church. They pretty much own the intellectual property...


23 posted on 04/27/2014 4:20:18 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: RaceBannon

24 posted on 04/27/2014 4:21:08 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Thank you for your common sense response!


25 posted on 04/27/2014 4:23:13 PM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: Vermont Lt

So, you can call people Bible thumpers but they have to keep quiet? sounds like a lib. No one made you click on this or any other thread.


26 posted on 04/27/2014 4:23:39 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: cripplecreek

I’m not Catholic either but that doesn’t mean I shouldn’t easily explain what a saint is. All Christians are saints.

See how easy that was?


27 posted on 04/27/2014 4:24:15 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Faith Presses On

I did speak up... on two threads labelled “Catholic Caucus”. I must give them credit for having a civilized conversation with me instead of telling me that I was not allowed to post in those threads.


28 posted on 04/27/2014 4:24:45 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Faith Presses On

All believers are saints.

And we’re all making it to heaven.

Catholicism is a religion based on being respecters of persons. God does no such thing.


29 posted on 04/27/2014 4:25:12 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: aimhigh

I have a polite suggestion.

Rather than ordering Catholics to “look it up”, why not point to the exact verse that give you such a strong belief.


30 posted on 04/27/2014 4:25:17 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Nifster

How about, “When the Saints go Marching in?”


31 posted on 04/27/2014 4:25:45 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Responsibility2nd

Seems that the moral busybodies got it covered.


32 posted on 04/27/2014 4:27:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: metmom

“Catholicism is a religion based on being respecters of persons.”

Where did you dig that up? I’m Catholic and don’t respect anybody... 1/2/s


33 posted on 04/27/2014 4:28:33 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: RaceBannon; Faith Presses On
Catholics, too, believe that all the Lord's people, both here on earth, and those who have passed on to the life to come, are saints.

So actually, nobody "hijacked" the word. "Saints" means "holy ones." When I ask all saints to pray for me, I'll include you! We can pray for each other, can't we?

34 posted on 04/27/2014 4:29:35 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (To err is human, but to really foul up requires digital technology.)
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To: Vermont Lt
Can we take on the first amendment here: and let the freedom to practice your religion without four hundred posts debating the “true” meaning of the bible
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Would you recommend that our great grand kids make the same argument when Muslims are the majority and vote out the constitution?

35 posted on 04/27/2014 4:29:40 PM PDT by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: babygene

The RCC didn’t compile anything

The Jewish believers compiled the entire OT and the RCC had nothing to do with it, Faithful Jews did that and not the RCC at all.

The early Churches compiled Paul’s and Peter’s letters and John’s and Luke’s too, so the RCC had nothing to do with that, faithful Jews who believed on Jesus did that, too.

Since all the Books were already compiled before Constantine and the Churches already were telling people what is real, and all Constantine did was put a stamp on it, tell me just how the RCC had anything to do with something that it had nothing to do with?


36 posted on 04/27/2014 4:29:56 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: narses

37 posted on 04/27/2014 4:31:13 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: Faith Presses On

Catholics believe that anyone who dies in the good Grace of God is a saint.

Does that bother you?


38 posted on 04/27/2014 4:31:18 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Vermont Lt; Faith Presses On

And yet here you are.... reading it.

If you don’t like it you can avoid the RF instead of choosing to get on it.

FWIW, the Catholic church has spent lots of time trying to impose its beliefs on others. Non-Catholics are told constantly that they must become Catholic to get to heaven, that in heaven everyone will be Catholic. And then there’s that pesky Inquisition thing.

Why don’t you go tell them to quit trying to impose their religion on others, threatening them with hell for not joining.

I don’t tell anyone they have to join the church I attend to get to heaven because salvation is through the person of Jesus Christ, not a religious denomination.


39 posted on 04/27/2014 4:31:40 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: cripplecreek
Ditto. I'm no longer a practicing Catholic (I'm a Christian, attend a Christian church) so I'm not comfortable "speaking out" against what the Catholic Church is doing.

The Catholic Church and its members should be as free as I am to practice my faith in Christ without intervention from other denominations.

Something about "removing the plank from one's own eye before attempting to remove it from other's (eyes)" is appropriate here IMO.

40 posted on 04/27/2014 4:33:36 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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