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Pope says baptism is for everyone, even Martians
Agence France Presse (AFP) via GMA News ^ | 13 May 2014

Posted on 05/12/2014 6:52:28 PM PDT by Gamecock

Edited on 05/12/2014 6:57:47 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

VATICAN CITY - Pope Francis on Monday declared that everyone has the right to be baptized, even aliens should they come knocking on the church's door.

Christians cannot "close the door" to all those who seek baptism even if they are "green men, with a long nose and big ears, like children draw," the pope said at his daily Mass, according to Vatican Radio.


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TOPICS: Catholic; Ecumenism; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: baptisingaliens; catholic
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1 posted on 05/12/2014 6:52:28 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

I can grok that.


2 posted on 05/12/2014 7:00:18 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Gamecock

Is how gets to get baptized an issue in the Catholic church?


3 posted on 05/12/2014 7:01:12 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Gamecock

Uh, OK your Holiness. Whatever you say. What are they putting in the holy water at the Vatican these days?


4 posted on 05/12/2014 7:02:19 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Gamecock

How does the Pope know if aliens (if there are aliens) have a soul?


5 posted on 05/12/2014 7:04:55 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: Gamecock
Cardinal Loose Cannon.

(There's actually been more than a bit of chitchat about this lately, among the weird conspiracy fringe dispys.)

6 posted on 05/12/2014 7:05:14 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: dowcaet

It is called modern communication. In the context of a daily homily, it is a way of making a point that everyone is called to receive baptism, no matter how they might appear in the eyes of the beholder. Taken out of the context and put into a headline, it sounds as if the Pope has issued a bull on the salvation of extra-terrestrials when in fact all that he has done is made a valid point in an effective way at a daily Mass.


7 posted on 05/12/2014 7:05:22 PM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: Gamecock
Vatican Seeks Signs of Alien Life... E.T. phone Rome!
Do space aliens have souls? Inquiring minds can check Jesuit's book
Vatican looks to heavens for signs of alien life
8 posted on 05/12/2014 7:06:09 PM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: stars & stripes forever
Because it is in his job description. </sarc>
9 posted on 05/12/2014 7:07:42 PM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: Gamecock

uh, I’m no theologian, but didn’t Jesus die for humanity? He didn’t die for Mork


10 posted on 05/12/2014 7:07:55 PM PDT by equalator
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To: Gamecock

11 posted on 05/12/2014 7:08:40 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: Gamecock

If they have a soul.


12 posted on 05/12/2014 7:11:13 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Gamecock

Every time a world leader, be they Russian, American, English or now the Pope, “laughingly” reference “little green men” or aliens in this way, I am more and more sure that they know something that we don’t. Nothing else makes sense.


13 posted on 05/12/2014 7:11:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Salvation

And just how is that decided?


14 posted on 05/12/2014 7:12:16 PM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: Gamecock

Vatican astronomer says if aliens exist, they may not need redemption
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0802629.htm

Vatican: Aliens Don’t Scare Us
http://www.occatholicnews.com/vatican-aliens-dont-scare-us/

Former Pope warns of Vatican Alien Agenda
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/former-pope-warns-of-vatican-alien-agenda/


15 posted on 05/12/2014 7:15:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: dowcaet

This rivals the fatwa forbidding Muslim travel to Mars.


16 posted on 05/12/2014 7:18:45 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Gamecock

I wonder if he has seen the Mel Gibson movie “Signs”


17 posted on 05/12/2014 7:19:46 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

>>How does the Pope know if aliens (if there are aliens) have a soul?<<

Why would they not?


18 posted on 05/12/2014 7:26:26 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: freedumb2003

Do animals have souls? Why or why not.
(I’m guessing Rome says yes)


19 posted on 05/12/2014 7:27:58 PM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: Vaquero

Share water with a Marvin? A Martian water brother?
Gee, I dunno ..... I draw the line at my essence.


20 posted on 05/12/2014 7:28:27 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Gamecock

the hits just keep on coming


21 posted on 05/12/2014 7:32:05 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: tumblindice

If they didn’t have souls, why would they want baptism?


22 posted on 05/12/2014 7:32:35 PM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: Gamecock

>>Do animals have souls? Why or why not.
(I’m guessing Rome says yes)<<

I think the official RCC word is they do not. But the converse part of that is that God, being omniscient, can recreate in our pets in the afterlife exactly the attributes they brought to us in life.

Our love for them is real, their love for us is real, but the relationship is different.


23 posted on 05/12/2014 7:32:37 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: Gamecock

Animals do not have souls.


24 posted on 05/12/2014 7:34:59 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Gamecock
Pope Francis on Monday declared that everyone has the right to be baptized, even aliens should they come knocking on the church's door.

E.T. Phone Rome!

The Vatican and UFOs
Do space aliens have souls? Inquiring minds can check Jesuit's book
Vatican Astronomer Says ET Could Phone Home
"The Omega Secret" [UFOs and the Vatican]
Vatican and UFO: Secretum Omega [Extraterrestrial Culture Day]
Secretum Omega Part II [Extraterrestrial Culture Day]
Vatican Official Confirms the Existence of Extraterrestrials [Friday afternoon tinfoil alert]
Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens ("The extraterrestrial is my brother")
Fatima: The new Movie… Deception a-go-go [the Fatima apparitions were really UFO manifestations]
The Vatican joins the search for alien life
Vatican looks to heavens for signs of alien life
Vatican Observatory examines theological implications of finding alien life
Vatican looks to heavens for signs of alien life
Vatican Seeks Signs of Alien Life... E.T. phone Rome!
Does Jesus save aliens?
Vatican prepares for extraterrestrial disclosure
The Truth Is Out There. Extraterrestrials, Probably Not
Aliens visiting the Vatican: UFO Landing site filmed
Alleged Vatican Official Says Extraterrestrials Are Real
UFO Disclosure 2010: Vatican Secrets And The Coming Hoax
Who's Behind the UFO Phenomenon? (from The Angelus: A Journal of Roman Catholic Tradition)

25 posted on 05/12/2014 7:37:10 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: null and void

I’ve seen a chimpanzee smoking a cigar while rollerskating—backwards, with his hands behind his back.
And he looked pretty pleased with himself, the cocky little ape. Should we baptize chimps too?
Martians, primates, democrats and gingers have no souls I tell ya!


26 posted on 05/12/2014 7:38:18 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Gamecock

Where is the article?


27 posted on 05/12/2014 7:38:25 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

Seems to have moved. Google it, there are several sites reporting this.


28 posted on 05/12/2014 7:41:31 PM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: stars & stripes forever

He’s read CS Lewis.


29 posted on 05/12/2014 7:42:31 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: stars & stripes forever

...or are Martians born with Original Sin?


30 posted on 05/12/2014 7:42:34 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Gamecock

All dogs go to heaven.


31 posted on 05/12/2014 7:43:44 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: Gamecock

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought in Roman Catholic theology, baptism took away Adam’s sin. A Martian would not be a descendant of Adam, so why baptize? “Verily Christ took not on him the nature of angels, but he took on him the seed of Abraham;” there is no salvation for fallen angels, but there is for the fallen sons of Adam.


32 posted on 05/12/2014 7:44:32 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

Immigration?


33 posted on 05/12/2014 7:47:41 PM PDT by BlueDragon (On Mother's Day everyone can say "thanks for the mammaries" 'cept me cuz I was a bottle baby)
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To: gusopol3

I am not a Roman Catholic, but you seem to make an excellent point.


34 posted on 05/12/2014 7:50:30 PM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: BlueDragon

Incarnation


35 posted on 05/12/2014 7:51:54 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

working from one end to another and all points in-between...

36 posted on 05/12/2014 7:57:35 PM PDT by BlueDragon (On Mother's Day everyone can say "thanks for the mammaries" 'cept me cuz I was a bottle baby)
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To: BlueDragon

‘Hot, green and righteous’?


37 posted on 05/12/2014 8:01:31 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Gamecock

Souls are the life giving principle of all living things. It is what makes a body different than a corpse, a tree different than a log. Following Aristotle, there are three kinds of levels of souls. The first is the vegetive souls which pertains to plants. It has the faculties of growth, nutrition and reproduction. The animal soul, common to animals, adds to these faculties those of the senses and self motion. The rational soul, common only to man, adds the faculties of reason and free-will. The powers of the vegetative and animal souls, being tied to the activity of the body, cease with death and are thus not immortal. Reason and free will of the rational soul, not being bodily functions, survive after the death which is but the separation of the soul from the body. And it is only the rational soul of man which has the power to love or to sin. It is the only one capable of redemption by God and union with Him in eternal life.


38 posted on 05/12/2014 8:02:10 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: equalator

“I have sheep that are not of this fold.”

It is debatable what that means, and I have not delved into the original word. But the translated word certainly opens it up for ETs.


39 posted on 05/12/2014 8:07:19 PM PDT by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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To: Gamecock

in before the alien guy


40 posted on 05/12/2014 8:07:50 PM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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To: freedumb2003

We have officially reached the end of things to fight about.


41 posted on 05/12/2014 8:07:58 PM PDT by DManA
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To: dowcaet

For some species it’s Holy Ammonia.


42 posted on 05/12/2014 8:11:07 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: gusopol3

The pope was only making a point, not a formal doctrinal position. There is no need to be so serious or critical.


43 posted on 05/12/2014 8:13:13 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: tumblindice
‘Hot, green and righteous’? and Orion slave girl.


44 posted on 05/12/2014 8:13:19 PM PDT by BlueDragon (On Mother's Day everyone can say "thanks for the mammaries" 'cept me cuz I was a bottle baby)
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To: Gamecock

No mention of Jesus...No mention of repentance...Not a word about sin...It’s all about the miracle water...

Might end up with a lot of Catholic greys and amphibians but won’t none of them make it to heaven...

That’s one goofy religion...


45 posted on 05/12/2014 8:14:17 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: BlueDragon

Wasn’t this green-hued Orion beauty one of Pastor Kirk’s conversions


46 posted on 05/12/2014 8:20:55 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: DManA
We have officially reached the end of things to fight about.

Well, you Humans have... ;)

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vvv

47 posted on 05/12/2014 8:23:46 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: tumblindice

>>Wasn’t this green-hued Orion beauty one of Pastor Kirk’s conversions<<

I think it was Pastor Pike...


48 posted on 05/12/2014 8:24:32 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: Salvation

“Animals do not have souls.”

Spiritual souls at least. My dog does definitely have a soul of some sort.


49 posted on 05/12/2014 8:30:28 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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