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The Rosary & Mary’s Jewish Prayer Life
Catholic Exchange ^ | May 15, 2014 | SHANE KAPLER

Posted on 05/15/2014 3:24:29 PM PDT by NYer

When I ponder what it means for Mary to be the mother of God incarnate, one of the most astounding aspects is the role she played in shaping Jesus’s human prayer. Yes, in the heights of His soul Jesus beheld the Father as clearly as the angels in heaven; but as a child, “He learns the formulas of prayer from his mother. . .He learns to pray in the words and rhythms of the prayer of his people” (CCC 2599). When Jesus entrusted the Church to Mary at the Cross (Jn. 19:26-27; Rev. 12:17), He extended her motherhood to His entire Mystical Body. She became, in an utterly unique way (next to her Son, of course), the Church’s great instructor in prayer. I think we see this most especially in the Rosary, and the way it mirrors the prayer times Mary and Jesus shared as devout Jews.

As faithful Jews, Jesus and Mary stopped three times each day to pray together. They recited Israel’s creed, the Shema: “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD; and you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. . . .” (Deut. 6:4–9, 11:13–21; Num. 15:37–41). They also prayed the Eighteen Benedictions, a beautiful, comprehensive tapestry of praise and petition. And between those times of prayer, as Mary went about the business of the day, she pondered the words of the Torah and the Prophets that she had heard in the synagogue and discussed with Jesus and Joseph. Through her meditation the Holy Spirit planted the words of Scripture so deeply in Mary’s heart that they naturally permeated her spontaneous prayer (see 1 Sam. 2:1-8 and Lk. 1:46-55) Most importantly, Mary’s heart was fixed upon her Son’s every word and action, contemplating the divine condescension to which she was exposed on a daily basis and how the covenants with Abraham, Moses and David were all reaching their fulfillment in Jesus. Mary’s prayer, so intimately united to the prayer of her Son, is the most beautiful imaginable – and that is what the Holy Spirit wants to give you and me in the Rosary!

You see, in the New Covenant, the magnificent prayer of God’s people has been brought to new heights. Jesus commanded His disciples to pray the Our Father. Its seven petitions encapsulate all others – the Eighteen Benedictions included (CCC 2767). And when it is prayed slowly, with the proper awe and love expressed in the words, “Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name,” it can encapsulate all blessing and thanksgiving as well. Further, the revelation of God’s oneness constantly confessed by the Jewish people in the Shema, has been completed by Jesus’ revelation of the Trinity and our confession of it in the Apostles’ and Nicene Creeds and our making the Sign of the Cross (the Creed in miniature) each time we prayer. All of this, and more, is present when we pray the Rosary.

We also join Mary’s contemplation of her Son – contemplating Him in the light of Scripture. We invoke her intercession, softly praying the words of Scripture (the Hail MaryLk. 1:28, 42-43), as we mediate upon the mysteries of her and Jesus’ lives, narrated in the gospels. As we think and rethink the evangelists’ inspired words, the Holy Spirit blesses us with deeper understanding of their significance and calls us, as He did Mary, to ever more profound discipleship. We complete our meditation on each mystery with the Glory Be – even more Scripture (Lk. 2:14; Matt. 28:19; Rev. 1:8). It’s such an amazing reflection of our Lady’s prayer life!

Pope St. John Paul II called Mary’s meditation, “the ‘rosary’ which she recited uninterruptedly throughout her earthly life;” and he invited us to join her: “With the Rosary, the Christian people sits at the school of Mary and is led to contemplate the beauty on the face of Christ and to experience the depths of his love” (Rosarium Virginis Mariae, 11; 1). Is it any wonder that when our Blessed Mother has been sent to earth – as at Lourdes and Fatima – she beseeches us to pray the Rosary? It is one of the most important ways she nourishes and instructs the children entrusted to her by Jesus, at the Cross. It is one of the main ways she cooperates with the Holy Spirit to mother the Body as she did our Head!


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1 posted on 05/15/2014 3:24:29 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...
When I ponder what it means for Mary to be the mother of God incarnate, one of the most astounding aspects is the role she played in shaping Jesus’s human prayer.

Ping!

2 posted on 05/15/2014 3:25:27 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer
When I ponder what it means for Mary to be the mother of God incarnate, one of the most astounding aspects is the role she played in shaping Jesus’s human prayer. Yes, in the heights of His soul Jesus beheld the Father as clearly as the angels in heaven; but as a child, “He learns the formulas of prayer from his mother. . .He learns to pray in the words and rhythms of the prayer of his people” (CCC 2599). When Jesus entrusted the Church to Mary at the Cross (Jn. 19:26-27; Rev. 12:17), He extended her motherhood to His entire Mystical Body. She became, in an utterly unique way (next to her Son, of course), the Church’s great instructor in prayer. I think we see this most especially in the Rosary, and the way it mirrors the prayer times Mary and Jesus shared as devout Jews.

Amazing how many falsehoods can be in the opening paragraph alone...

I count 6 in this one paragraph alone.

Do you *read* this stuff *before* you post it?

3 posted on 05/15/2014 3:29:11 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: NYer

Christ to John: “Behold your Mother.”

Christ to His mother: “Behold your Son.” Christ gave all of us his mother as his last gift to us.

“And the disciple took her into his house that day.”

Why is it that some people cannot believe the Scripture?


4 posted on 05/15/2014 4:28:30 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

The author doesn’t mention the great Jewish prayers, the Psalms, nor does he mention that the Rosary was intended to connect the lay faithful with the recitation of the 150 psalms in monasteries.


5 posted on 05/15/2014 4:30:13 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If I offended you, you needed it.)
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To: Salvation
Christ to John: “Behold your Mother.”

Christ to His mother: “Behold your Son.”

“And the disciple took her into his house that day.”

"Christ gave all of us his mother as his last gift to us."
"Why is it that some people cannot believe the Scripture?"

Why is it that some people can't read what it actually says, without adding extra stuff that isn't there?

6 posted on 05/15/2014 5:28:37 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Both the writer and Salvation is correct.

That is what Jesus said from the cross, one of His last words.


7 posted on 05/15/2014 5:31:56 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: NYer

Thank-you for the wonderful article. God Bless.


8 posted on 05/15/2014 5:32:27 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl
Both the writer and Salvation is correct.

Then you should provide a verse that clearly says what you claim.

That is what Jesus said from the cross, one of His last words.

Jesus did not say Mary is our Mother. At best, He place John in the position as son of Mary and Mary as his mother. No more is written.

If it was, post it. Otherwise, you just expressed an opinion. Perhaps devotedly held, but just an opinion.

9 posted on 05/15/2014 5:34:11 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Mary, by accepting John, became the mother of ALL Christian believers, down to this day, be we Catholic, Protestant, or Orthodox Christians.


10 posted on 05/15/2014 5:37:02 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

All that was refered to was this:

“When Jesus then saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold, your son!” 27Then He said to the disciple, “Behold, your mother!” From that hour the disciple took her into his own household.”

John 19:26-27 and only this.


11 posted on 05/15/2014 5:43:03 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl
Mary, by accepting John, became the mother of ALL Christian believers, down to this day, be we Catholic, Protestant, or Orthodox Christians.

It does not say that anywhere in Scripture. I assume you can read this in your native language and see that what you are saying is not there. Not in Greek. Not in English.

12 posted on 05/15/2014 5:51:31 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Just simply interpted what the scripture is saying, no more, no less.

Let us agree to disagree.


13 posted on 05/15/2014 6:01:14 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

Dear friend,

You wrote... “Just simply interpreted what the scripture is saying, no more, no less.”

Well, no. Scripture doesn’t mean whatever someone wants it to mean - no matter how devotedly held that belief may be.

What you are claiming isn’t interpretation. It is eisogesis. You are importing extra-Scriptural meaning into a passage that simply does not say what you claim. When you claim something without facts, it isn’t interpretation. It is unsupported opinion.

God inspired specific Greek words, with normal Greek sentence structure. In this instance, there is absolutely nothing about Mary being the mother of all believers.


14 posted on 05/15/2014 6:19:08 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: NYer

Quote- Is it any wonder that when our Blessed Mother has been sent to earth – as at Lourdes and Fatima – she beseeches us to pray the Rosary?

The 15 Promises of Our Lady to Christians Who Recite the Rosary
 

1.Whoever shall faithfully SERVE ME (MARY) by the recitation of the Rosary, shall receive signal graces.
Deut 6:13-15- 13 You shall fear the Lord your God and SERVE HIM, and shall take oaths in His name. 14 You shall not go after other gods, the gods of the peoples who are all around you 15 (for the Lord your God is a jealous God among you), lest the anger of the Lord your God be aroused against you and destroy you from the face of the earth.

Deut 10:20- 20 You shall fear the Lord your God; you SHALL SERVE HIM, and to Him you shall hold fast, and take oaths in His name.

1 Samuel 7:3-  Then Samuel spoke to all the house of Israel, saying, “If you return to the Lord with all your hearts, then put away the foreign gods and the Ashtoreths from among you, and prepare your hearts for the Lord, and SERVE HIM ONLY...
Mathew 4:8-10-8 Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9 And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.”
10 Then Joshua said to him, “Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him ONLY YOU SHALL SERVE.”
Luke 4:8 And Joshua answered and said to him, “Get behind Me, Satan!For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him ONLY YOU SHALL SERVE.’

On the witness of scripture and the Messiah of Israel, her supposed son:

her first promise in the 15 promises for praying her rosary shows she is a liar and not to be trusted. And whatever she points you to- it isn’t the Way, the Truth and the Life..
She is satanic..

Flee these lies and this countefeit greco roman latin mother and her counterfeit greco roman latin savior...


15 posted on 05/15/2014 7:48:15 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

That’s an easy question.

If the words “Son, behold your mother” were of no relevance to us, the readers of the gospel, they wouldn’t be in the gospel.


16 posted on 05/15/2014 8:40:51 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

If what is reported in the gospel has no spiritual meaning that applies to us who read the gospel, then it would be idle chatter. And there is no idle chatter in the gospels.


17 posted on 05/15/2014 8:43:32 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

Your statement presumes that the only value you can derive from the Savior’s words must apply to you equally as to John.

With that premise, I can’t wait to see what you do with these inspired words in Matthew...

“So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.”


18 posted on 05/15/2014 8:50:17 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Biggirl
I wonder if you have thought about how we know about the birth of Jesus,the visitation,taking Baby Jesus to Egypt;you know all those stories about what happened when Mary was with child and Jesus first twelve years. Have you ever thought about it? Does thinking about it make you curious?

How did all of that information get into the New Testament,could it be that the scripture readings concerning all of that information came from the knowledge that Mary transmitted to the twelve after Jesus had been crucified and left in John's keeping? Could they have(the twelve) visited John and Mary and learned about the beginnings? If not,how did they know I think if you pray about it you may get some answers that may surprise you!

19 posted on 05/15/2014 9:01:26 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: Arthur McGowan

The times when outright fabrications of dogma could be hidden are over. The entire structure of the Roman system is failing, to the degree that the titular head of institutional Christianity can say of sexual deviancy, “Who am I to judge?”. When people leave the Torah they begin to drift....and they end up 180 degrees in opposition to it. This happens unwittingly, automatically. G-d says, “don’t make an image and bow down to it.” Go to Rome and watch what goes on in “Saint Peters” basilica: people bowing down to and kissing statues of the saints. Praying to the saints, thanking the saints. A direct violation of the Torah. This is a warning to you who are hungry for G-d. Get out.


20 posted on 05/15/2014 9:04:38 PM PDT by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I didn’t say that every word in the gospel is TRUE ABOUT ME.

I said that everything in the gospel has a meaning that is relevant for me.

You are obviously determined to impose a negative, or preposterous meaning on what I said, even to the point of falsely reporting what I said.


21 posted on 05/15/2014 9:43:26 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: NYer

thank you NYer for posting


22 posted on 05/16/2014 3:09:22 AM PDT by aimee5291
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To: saradippity

God speaks and still does through, through His inpired word.

Thanks to Mary’s help, Luke was able to devote the first two chapters of the Gospel of Jesus Christ according to Luke to the infancy/childhood of Jesus.


23 posted on 05/16/2014 3:42:51 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Your opinion and your opinon only.


24 posted on 05/16/2014 3:45:40 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: saradippity

I agree with most of what you posted. That doesn’t make the falsehoods true.


25 posted on 05/16/2014 6:27:53 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: Arthur McGowan

“I said that everything in the gospel has a meaning that is relevant for me.”

So your chosen hermeneutic is not what God wrote, but what you think it means to you.


26 posted on 05/16/2014 6:29:55 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: Biggirl

Actually, the point is that it should have nothing to do with opinion. God said what He said - and no more. When you take away from what He inspired or add to what He inspired, you distort it.


27 posted on 05/16/2014 6:31:55 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

No. Once again, you have taken the opportunity to put the most negative construction on what I said. But deliberately putting a negative construction on another’s words is not rational argument.

By “me” I meant all human beings who read the gospel.

I was not referring to my private interpretation. I was referring to the objective intention of the author of the gospel. HE did not put anything into the gospel that would not be of spiritual significance to every reader of the gospel.

If the reported exchange about Mary and John was only about Mary and John’s relationship, and not about Mary’s relationship to every human being, then it would not be in the gospel.


28 posted on 05/16/2014 5:43:38 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

“I was not referring to my private interpretation. I was referring to the objective intention of the author of the gospel. HE did not put anything into the gospel that would not be of spiritual significance to every reader of the gospel.”

And that is just the point. God, who inspired the writer, objectively used real Greek words and sentences to communicate exactly what He wanted. Not whatever meaning you bring to it.

“If the reported exchange about Mary and John was only about Mary and John’s relationship, and not about Mary’s relationship to every human being, then it would not be in the gospel.”

This is clearly false. It was important to God to communicate what Christ did in regards to Mary and John. What isn’t there is what you claimed. It says absolutely nothing about Mary’s “relationship with every human being.”


29 posted on 05/16/2014 5:48:33 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: Biggirl
Mary, by accepting John, became the mother of ALL Christian believers

well....no. can't speak for everyone. As you said, agree to disagree. Might want to recant that.

30 posted on 05/16/2014 5:53:27 PM PDT by ZinGirl (kids in college....can't afford a tagline right now)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

The message to me is not: Go hang yourself.

The message is: Don’t betray Jesus, and don’t commit the sin of despair.

How’s that? Reasonable?


31 posted on 05/16/2014 10:02:08 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
The message is: Don’t betray Jesus, and don’t commit the sin of despair. How’s that? Reasonable?

....................... It's a good start Arthur.

It is also there because it is the fulfillment of prophecy, concerning the validation of Christ as Messiah.

32 posted on 05/17/2014 10:03:41 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: Arthur McGowan

“The message to me is not: Go hang yourself.”

Now, explain why you think you have the correct message here - that it doesn’t apply to what you are to do? But in the case of Mary and John, you want to make that specific action apply to you. Why? On what basis of Biblical hermeneutics is that rational?


33 posted on 05/17/2014 10:05:22 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Did Jesus tell Judas to betray Him? Did Jesus tell Judas to hang himself?


34 posted on 05/17/2014 12:20:36 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

“Did Jesus tell Judas to betray Him? Did Jesus tell Judas to hang himself?”

Not in inspired Scripture.


35 posted on 05/17/2014 12:47:45 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I saw what you did there. :^’)


36 posted on 05/17/2014 1:11:31 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
“Did Jesus tell Judas to betray Him? Did Jesus tell Judas to hang himself?”

Not in inspired Scripture.

Well, actually...

Jesus said to him (Judas), “What you are going to do, do quickly.” John 13:27

;->

37 posted on 05/17/2014 2:51:28 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: Kandy Atz; aMorePerfectUnion; Arthur McGowan

That was pretty good. He did tell Judas that.

I do not recall the precise apocryphal writing which aMPU was otherwise slyly referring to...but those sort of works were known to have provided some conceptual "leakage" into the wider commentaries, over the centuries. One version has Judas as some crucial figure who was cooperative -- like -- he was just "playing at" or acting as if he was betraying Christ with the story being presented as it all being part of a larger setting of "holy theatre".

Something along those lines was in some false Gospel or another...I forget which one.

38 posted on 05/17/2014 3:13:22 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon

Had Judas repented, I believe he would have had a very moving testimony of God’s love and mercy. His experience shows how satan can oppress someone (or even posses someone) to the point they will lose all hope and commit suicide.

Condemnation will kill you if you don’t repent and get cleansed by the Blood of Jesus.

Way off topic. Sorry for the digression.


39 posted on 05/17/2014 3:35:11 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: Kandy Atz

He did say that, but I believe it was connected to judas’ betrayal, as Christ foretold. But you’re sharp!


40 posted on 05/17/2014 5:14:28 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: Kandy Atz

No problem. I opened up the "off" direction a bit myself when pointing towards what I though was a witty comment made by another.

As for Judas ---without quoting you but much agreeing nonetheless...it did not take long for condemnation to sink in for Judas, it seems. Almost immediately he went to throw the "fine price" back to those whom paid him to betray the Christ. Ouch.

You know the scripture. I will reference for others sake's Zechariah 11

12 Then I said to them, “If it is agreeable to you, give me my wages; and if not, refrain.” So they weighed out for my wages thirty pieces of silver.

13 And the Lord said to me, “Throw it to the potter”—that princely price they set on me. So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them into the house of the Lord for the potter.

Poor Judas. Things did not work out well for him...

41 posted on 05/17/2014 5:43:46 PM PDT by BlueDragon (I took...two staffs: the one I called Beauty and the other Bonds and I fed the flock...)
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To: ZinGirl

No.


42 posted on 05/18/2014 8:09:39 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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