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‘Makes Christianity Look Silly’: Creationist Ken Ham Unleashes on Pat Robertson
The Blaze ^ | May 15, 2014 | Billy Hallowell

Posted on 05/16/2014 12:34:41 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Young earth creationist Ken Ham lashed out at televangelist Pat Robertson over his claim earlier this week that someone has to be “deaf, dumb and blind” to believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, accusing Robertson of compromising “the Word of God.”

“Pat Robertson illustrates one of the biggest problems we have today in the church — people like Robertson compromise the Word of God with the pagan ideas of fallible men!,” Ham wrote on his Facebook page. “Pat Robertson is not upholding the Word of God with his ridiculous statements — he is undermining the authority of the Word. And any attack on the WORD is an attack on the person of Jesus Christ, who IS THE WORD!”

Ham, who runs Answers in Genesis, a Christian ministry that takes the Bible’s Genesis account of creation literally, broke down the comments Robertson made on CBN’s “The 700 Club” earlier this week in a point-by-point analysis.

In addition to accusing Roberson of expressing “his utter ignorance of science,” Ham wrote that the televangelist “makes Christianity look silly.”

But Ham took particular exception to Robertson’s claim that there is no way that the Earth could have possibly come to fruition in such a short time span.

“Really Pat Robertson? You mean there is no way God, the infinite Creator, could not have created the universe in six days just six thousand years ago?,” Ham rhetorically asked. “God could have created everything in six seconds if He wanted [to]! And it’s not a matter of what you think anyway — it’s a matter of what God has clearly told us in His infallible WORD!”

As TheBlaze previously reported, Robertson unleashed his critiques on young earth creationists Tuesday, saying that they are mistaken in their views about the age of the planet.

“The truth is, you have to be deaf, dumb and blind to think that this Earth that we live in only has 6,000 years of existence, it just doesn’t, I’m sorry,” Robertson said.

He added, “I think what we’re looking at is that there was a point of time after the Earth was created, after these things were done, after the universe was formed, after the asteroid hit the Earth and wiped out the dinosaurs — after that, there was a point of time that there was a particular human being that God touched — and that was the human that started the race that we are now part of.”

Watch Robertson’s comments below:

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Science; Theology
KEYWORDS: creation; creationism; kenham; patrobertson
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To: ealgeone

A Hebrew day started at a different time of day than we know it today by our clock. Faith has nothing to do with it.


81 posted on 05/16/2014 2:37:21 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: MrB

Fire breathing flying lizard I think


82 posted on 05/16/2014 2:38:14 PM PDT by redhawk.44mag
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To: TalBlack
The only relevance any of this has is Faith.

The Bible nowhere calls on me to have faith in the fanciful musings of human imagination.
You can choose to conjure scenarios not supported by scripture but I opt to remain rooted in reality; Ecclesiastes 11:3 states that "... if a tree falls to the south or to the north, in the place where the tree falls, there it shall lie."

There is no proof that God violates the physical laws He created; in fact, all evidence points to His adherence to law (I John 3:4,9)

83 posted on 05/16/2014 2:38:32 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: ealgeone

That depends on one’s belief in the bible.


84 posted on 05/16/2014 2:41:42 PM PDT by redhawk.44mag
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To: Karl Spooner
A Hebrew day started at a different time of day than we know it today by our clock. Faith has nothing to do with it.

I know.

My point is that we are willing to take as an article of faith that Christ was resurrected on the third day as He said He would, yet some reject the clear Biblical teaching of the creation.

If I follow this line of reasoning:

1) A person can overcome death and rise again 2) But the very person who overcame death and rose again is incapable of creating the universe in six 24 hour days.

85 posted on 05/16/2014 2:42:26 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: Gamecock

There are a lot of views on creation that are held by Christians.


That is true but why do so many people ignore much of what the bible says just because they have been taught one way?

I was also taught that the world and every thing in it was made in six days, after reading awhile I realized that my teachers left so much out that they should have paid more attention to.


86 posted on 05/16/2014 2:43:45 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: DouglasKC
Jer 4:23 I beheld the earth, and indeed it was without form, and void; And the heavens, they had no light.

More than 99.9% of the people think this verse is speaking of Noah's flood...

2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

If this is Noah's flood, heaven got destroyed in the flood...

87 posted on 05/16/2014 2:43:58 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: redhawk.44mag
That depends on one’s belief in the bible.

Whether one believes in the Bible or not doesn't discount God exists and He is capable of creating ex nihilo.

88 posted on 05/16/2014 2:44:27 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: stormhill
There is no proof that God violates the physical laws He created; in fact, all evidence points to His adherence to law (I John 3:4,9)

It puzzles some that there is only one direction you can walk if you are standing on the north pole.

89 posted on 05/16/2014 2:45:17 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner

“You either believe him that a day in his timezone is a thousand years or you don’t.”

You don’t think it’s possible to believe the later statement “a day to the Lord is like a thousand years”, but also to believe that sometimes when the Bible says a day, it means a literal, 24 hour day? After all, Peter didn’t write that verse until many years after Genesis was written. It would seem very ungenerous of God to write the Genesis account but neglect to give anyone the key to properly interpreting it until many centuries later.

Notice also the word “like” in that oft-referenced statement. It doesn’t actually say that when the Lord says “a day”, he means “a thousand years, but rather it is a statement that seems to be speaking more about perceptions. The use of it as some type of “substitution code” is a latter day invention of modern Christians.


90 posted on 05/16/2014 2:47:47 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ealgeone

On the contrary. If God’s word is untrue regarding the creation, it is untrustworthy on every other point.


No, Gods word is not untrue but nowhere does he tell us that the earth is only six thousand years old, that is mans teaching, not Gods.


91 posted on 05/16/2014 2:52:13 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: Karl Spooner
It puzzles some that there is only one direction you can walk if you are standing on the north pole.

Interesting fallacy; if you're on the north pole, there are unlimited directions you can travel in. The problem is that they are all called "south" even though they may go in opposite directions.

92 posted on 05/16/2014 2:55:18 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: ealgeone

The bible teaches creation in God’s words. Not man made time frame creation in mans words - who are paranoid about evolution that doesn’t exist.


93 posted on 05/16/2014 2:56:05 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: ealgeone

Yes.

Are there ANY words in the Bible which have different meanings in one instance vs. another?

Your example does NOT make your point.


94 posted on 05/16/2014 2:56:34 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: ravenwolf
On the contrary. If God’s word is untrue regarding the creation, it is untrustworthy on every other point. No, Gods word is not untrue but nowhere does he tell us that the earth is only six thousand years old, that is mans teaching, not Gods.

If we follow the genealogies that is roughly the time period we get.

My point in this discussion though centers around the six days of creation. Can God create everything in six 24 hour days?

Of this we do have very strong Biblical support that the days in Genesis 1 are 24 hour days.

95 posted on 05/16/2014 2:59:07 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: ealgeone

Whether one believes in the Bible or not doesn’t discount God exists and He is capable of creating ex nihilo.


I can open up a can of worms here.

It appears to me the six literal day creationists do not believe in the Bible, they leave things out to turn the Bible into an Alice in wonderland story.


96 posted on 05/16/2014 2:59:09 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: Boogieman
So, every time the Bible says the word “day”, we have to read it as a thousand years?

When it comes to prophecy in the OT, it's beneficial to do that...

97 posted on 05/16/2014 2:59:12 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: ravenwolf
Whether one believes in the Bible or not doesn’t discount God exists and He is capable of creating ex nihilo. I can open up a can of worms here. It appears to me the six literal day creationists do not believe in the Bible, they leave things out to turn the Bible into an Alice in wonderland story.

Curious...what is being left out?

98 posted on 05/16/2014 3:00:05 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: G Larry
Yes. Are there ANY words in the Bible which have different meanings in one instance vs. another? Your example does NOT make your point.

Actually to use the word day in the OT does prove the point.

As previously noted day plus the ordinal number is understood to be a 24 hour day as we understand it.

In other places in the Bible the word day is used as a general time such as in the day of the Lord.

So yes, there are instances.

Again, the point here is to let the Bible interpret the Bible.

99 posted on 05/16/2014 3:02:55 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: Karl Spooner
The bible teaches creation in God’s words. Not man made time frame creation in mans words - who are paranoid about evolution that doesn’t exist.

Disagree...The Bible was given to us by God in language we can understand.

To use your line of thinking we could never be sure of anything in the Bible regarding salvation if it is viewed as being in God's words which man is incapable of understanding.

100 posted on 05/16/2014 3:05:00 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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