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To: Zuriel; teppe
As before, you skate right over John 17:1-3, where Jesus Christ speaks of the Father as ‘the one true God’. Again ignoring that Jesus Christ declares that he is IN the Father, and the Father IN him (because the Father is a Spirit. Jn 4:23,24).

I didn't "skate" over them. They don't prove that Jesus isn't God at all, and they do not negate the passages that show that Jesus is God and that your Mormon polytheism is ruled out.

EVERY place in the scriptures, such as Isaiah, where the Christ speaks with the authority of the ‘only true God’, it is because the Father is in him, just as he confirms it many places in the gospel of John.

This is merely your assertion. None of your passages explicitly say this, while my passages explicitly call Christ "Almighty" or the "First and the Last," and it is stupid to claim that there can be two "Almighties" or two "First and Lasts." When you find a passage that explicitly says "Christ is only worshipped as God, is only called almighty like God, is only called God, and only speaks as God, because He's not really God but has God in Him (like all of us do)" then you may bleat about it. Until then, you've got nothing to offer.

By the way, are you actually Mormon? Your arguments are different than theirs. FR has many different cults operating.

58 posted on 05/18/2014 3:05:09 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

**They don’t prove that Jesus isn’t God at all,**

So, in John 17:1-3, when Jesus Christ calls the Father ‘the only true God’, or saying that the Father is in him doing the works (Jn 14:10), and giving him the words (Jn 1:1) to speak, he’s not being quite accurate.........

And the apostle Paul said: “But to us there is but one God, the Father, OF whom are all things, and we in him;(semi-colon) and one Lord Jesus Christ, BY whom are all things, and we by him.” 1 Cor. 8:6. Was Paul not quite accurate in that description?

Are you wiser than they at describing the Godhead?

**my passages explicitly call Christ “Almighty” or the “First and the Last,” and it is stupid to claim that there can be two “Almighties” or two “First and Lasts.”**

I make no such claim. The Almighty God is IN Jesus Christ without measure. That’s what he, and his apostles and prophets declare.

**He’s not really God but has God in Him (like all of us do)**

Not like all of us do, for he was born sinless, and has been given the Spirit without measure, like NO one else.

Notice the capitalized ‘OF’ and ‘BY’. I capped them to help you notice that everything is OF God, including the Christ (Son OF God), and we IN Him (God is a omnipresent Spirit). And BY the Son OF God (the firstborn, to whom God gave the Spirit without measure) came the rest of creation, and we BY him.

Neither Jesus Christ, nor the apostles ever used the phrase ‘God the Son’, only the ‘Son of God’.

Are you ‘Planet Earth the GPH’ , or ‘GPH of Planet Earth’?

Again,...did Jesus Christ inherit his name?


75 posted on 05/18/2014 9:09:51 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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