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To: Alamo-Girl; TXnMA; hosepipe; metmom; MHGinTN; YHAOS; xzins
LOL dearest sister in Christ! The fact is, Bohm's Wholeness and the Implicate Order is one of the most challenging and difficult books I have ever read. :^)

I was over half way through it, when I realized that I just wasn't "getting it." So....I went back to the beginning, and started all over again from square one.

In my experience, if you can figure out what Bohm is doing with the "rheomode," then anything subsequent to that discussion is easier to grasp.

Oh, the rheomode, and what it is: It is Bohm's reconceptualization of language in terms of flow. He notes that ordinary language tends to reinforce the idea of the independence and autonomy of the object intended. IOW, a word denotes an object in a fixed and consistent way, while the intended object really doesn't possess those characteristics in nature. To use an analogy from quantum mechanics, ordinary language is like the preference for observing particles rather than waveforms. The rheomode is an attempt to reconceive language in terms of flow, or waveform.

To me, what Bohm has done is a tour de force that helps one to understand natural processes in a radically new way. Quoting from its back cover:

David Bohm [1917–1992] was one of the foremost scientific thinkers and philosophers of our time. Although deeply influenced by Einstein, he was also, more unusually for a scientist, inspired by mysticism.... In both science and philosophy, Bohm's main concern was with understanding the nature of reality in general and of consciousness in particular. In this classic work he develops a theory of quantum physics which treats the totality of existence as an unbroken whole.... Renowned physicist and theorist [he] was one of the most original thinkers of the second half of the twentieth century.

I found Rosen's work enormously influential. I consider Bohm another truly "BIG" thinker who helps one see the universe in a whole, new, fresh way.

I do hope you'll enjoy the book, dearest sister in Christ!

187 posted on 07/03/2014 9:15:55 AM PDT by betty boop (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. —Thomas Jefferson)
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To: betty boop
I'm certain I will enjoy the book, dearest sister in Christ, and his approach to word concepts. After all, I have always preferred quantum field theory over quantum mechanics, though they have the same result. Fields - wave forms, geometry, etc. - make sense to me.

Thank you again, so very much!

188 posted on 07/03/2014 9:26:51 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Whosoever

I was over half way through it, when I realized that I just wasn’t “getting it.” So....I went back to the beginning, and started all over again from square one.


The search for truth takes persistence...
Which IMO far outshines talent or brains..

Same thing happened to me with the Bible...
I read it and re-read it THEN.. I admitted to myself.. I wasn’t getting it..

Instead of throwing it the pile in my book trash corner..
I did a reassesment of my motives and agenda..

And tried to read it in the “spirit” it was given..
As some writers saw things beyond, their(the) situation..

Whether bible lore, spiritual fairy tales or actual history..
it was indeed their opinions.. whoever “they” were..

Whether true or fancy it told a story.. with multiple stories..
Stories told that reached for truth.. stretched for answers, called out to grasping for a base..

Cause every agenda has a base.. for motives..
Only then did I see the Bible could stretch me, beyond where I could reach..

Only thing then was I willing to be stretched..
Reminds me of a verse of scripture..

” After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things “.....

And Oh! My.. the things I have been shown..
When the “coming up hither stops”.. the stretching stops..


189 posted on 07/03/2014 10:04:54 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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