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Posted on 06/18/2014 4:21:54 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
Move over Newspeak: now here is Newlogic:
A.) The 796 children of the St Mary's (Bon Secours) Mother and Baby Home in Tuam, Co, Galway, Ireland being-buried-in-a-septic-tank-story has been "debunked." Therefore, that means that the 796 missing children are (as a result) no longer missing!
Problem is...
B.) One proves the other? C.) They have been found? D.) If so, where are they?
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A supposed positive for the former (A) is not tantamount to a positive for the latter three (C-D).
They are still missing. Ah, but lets make others prove that they aren't missing, that they weren't baptized, that they weren't buried on consecrated ground, etc. It's so much easier that way.
But... The RCC and/or the Bon Secours sisters have given no baptismal records, no burial records, and no proof of burial in consecrated ground for 40, 50 even a hundred --- much less 796.
Until then, this is on-going, and arguing AGAINST something (caps for emphasis only) - by tossing this up as a shield - does not mean that one has proven something (which would be arguing FOR it): that they (796 missing children) have been found buried somewhere and are no longer missing.
Tossing up the "debunked" thingy won't supply any proof that they have been found, won't prove that they were baptized, and won't prove that they were buried on consecrated ground.
And it certainly will not mean that any burial records were therefore automatically handed over by the Bon Secours sisters who ran the place as a result of proffering the "debunked" Straw Man to shield against having to prove they were:
1.) baptized, 2.) that burial records were handed over by the Bon Secours sisters, 3.) that the RCC or the Bon Secours sisters have said records of burial, or 4.) that the 796 missing children were buried on consecrated gorund.
Again, where are the missing children?
The next two or three years will tell the tale.
Are you Irish FRiend?
I’m a Catholic.
I’ll tell you a story. I was working on a project a couple years back in Sicily.
It was reported to me that on another project, a convent addition/renovation, they had found infant human remains behind a wall during the demolition. I didn’t see it myself, and I wasn’t able to verify. I will tell you though that it scandalized me.
I don’t know the circumstances of how those remains would have gotten there if they were there at all. What I do know though is that we’re all human beings and we’re all sinners. I can’t imagine the shame that would drive a person to such evil but I have to understand that it can happen. At the end of the day, whatever occurred, all I can hope is that at some point grace broke through and all human souls were reconciled with Christ.
We both trust in the same Lord and are saved through Him. If He can love us through our faults, I hope that you will be able to overlook mine.
God bless FRiend.
Why are you posting this again? Your inaccuracies where pointed out on your previous thread. Where you hoping for a gullible audience this time?
He’s just not giving up.
Apparently you haven’t read the history of some convents and the remains found in them through out Great Britain
People sin.
I’ve sinned.
I’ll guess you have to.
What I know is that I came to know Christ through my Church, through our Church. I’ve experienced His grace through the sacraments. Haven’t we all been surprised by this joy?
A.) The 796 children of the St Mary's (Bon Secours) Mother and Baby Home in Tuam, Co, Galway, Ireland being-buried-in-a-septic-tank-story has been "debunked." Therefore, that means that the 796 missing children are (as a result) no longer missing!
No longer missing? What does that mean? I thought that these dead children were supposedly in a "septic tank." That doesn't sound like they are missing to me. What are you talking about?
I thought they proved that the septic tank had been specially converted to house the bodies and a shrine put over it?
That was sure the claim.
Can’t “remains” be from deaths brought about by illness, famine, injury and such? Must they always be linked with evil, sordid and otherwise morbid remains?
Lets just concede we suck and proceed to which ever of the 51,000 different denominations happens to be near where you live.
“Apparently you haven’t read the history of some convents and the remains found in them through out Great Britain.”
And what would that prove? Pregnant girls often quietly gave birth in convents for centuries and then their children were put up for adoption. Until recent decades infant mortality was very high. Babies died and were buried in the convents. And?
The simple fact is that many of these poor children died because Ireland was poor, pre-natal care was lousy, and doctors were rarely present at the births (probably to help protect the anonymity of the girl): http://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/06/05/what-about-dublin/
222 children died over 27 years in the Irish Protestant Bethany House, but - SINCE IT WAS PROTESTANT - no one is talking about it in the international press: http://www.thejournal.ie/bethany-homes-child-deaths-unmarked-graves-1513605-Jun2014/
http://cdn.thejournal.ie/media/2014/04/mount-jerome-bethan-graves-release-2-april-2014-2.pdf
“Can’t “remains” be from deaths brought about by illness, famine, injury and such?”
Yes.
222 children died over 27 years in the Irish Protestant Bethany House, but - SINCE IT WAS PROTESTANT - no one is talking about it in the international press. See the known causes of death at Bethany House here:
http://cdn.thejournal.ie/media/2014/04/mount-jerome-bethan-graves-release-2-april-2014-2.pdf
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