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A Response to Bill O'Reilly on Homosexuality and Marriage
http://cnsnews.com ^ | April 19, 2014 | Fr. Marcel Guarnizo

Posted on 06/20/2014 3:49:46 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

In recent weeks, Mr. Bill O'Reilly has reached his very large television and web site audience with several claims that more than "Bible thumping" will be required to defend marriage. He has stated that the battle to preserve marriage is in fact lost. He has reported that his libertarian position on the matter makes the defense of marriage irrelevant. And, further, he has implied that biblical teaching is unacceptable in the public square.

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A little dated from last year, but a great article where a Catholic priest takes cafeteria catholic Bill O'Reilly to the woodshed for his attempt to justify homosexual "marriage".
1 posted on 06/20/2014 3:49:46 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

megyn kelly has been smoking o’really in the ratings lately.

a lot of people don’t understand how this phony has kept an audience all these years.


2 posted on 06/20/2014 3:54:28 AM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: kingattax

The difference between the two shows is interesting.

O’Reilly is the reason for his show. He has guests on, only to tell them what he thinks, and therefore, what everyone else should think. He SO needs to get over himself. What a pompous ass.

Kelly, on the other hand, asks her guests questions and actually lets them respond. She will challenge them, but doesn’t tell them why they’re wrong and how they should think, even though she may be right. Having said that, I sure didn’t like how she spoke to Cheney the other night, unless she was just trying to come across as “fair and balanced”.


3 posted on 06/20/2014 4:03:40 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: NKP_Vet

The battle to preserve marriage was lost with no fault divorce.


4 posted on 06/20/2014 4:22:21 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: NKP_Vet

I stopped watching years ago. O’Reilly is more interested in being invited to the big parties in Washington. He wants to be part of the in crowd, so he has been slowly inching left for a long time. Sadly for him, his audience is waking and abandoning him. I’ve often read that people are former viewers. He’s toast.


5 posted on 06/20/2014 4:28:28 AM PDT by Essie
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To: JudyinCanada

Kelly is also a proponent of homosexual “marriage”, saying it’s a civil right. The only difference in her and O’Reilly is she’s better looking.


6 posted on 06/20/2014 4:28:34 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Truth is like a lion. You don't have to defend it. Let it loose. It will defend itself")
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To: NKP_Vet

Who cares what pundit says this or what popular public poll says that concerning homosexual relations and its faux marriage tripe. The Bible is plainly clear on the topic.
We either choose with it or against it. Homosexual marriage is an abomination. If people choose it then so be it but we don’t have to give in to legalizing it as this corrupt culture is unwisely doing at warp speed.


7 posted on 06/20/2014 4:40:05 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: JudyinCanada

Megyn Kelly is a big promoter of “gay marriage”. Am not impressed with her. O’Reilly is a ding-a-ling. He touts himself as middle of the road, but his ditzy stands on climate change and “gay marriage” are laughable. On the other hand, Bret Baier is possibly the most even-handed and civilized reporter on American TV. Brit Hume is another fairly solid talking head.


8 posted on 06/20/2014 4:41:27 AM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: NKP_Vet

LOL


9 posted on 06/20/2014 4:42:48 AM PDT by piusv
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To: NKP_Vet

I hate to say it, but I think he’s right: I think the fight for traditional marriage is lost. It’s just a matter of time before all states make it legal.


10 posted on 06/20/2014 4:45:22 AM PDT by piusv
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To: Montana_Sam

When it comes to TV personas in the media our conservative heroes to find there are extremely slim pickings.


11 posted on 06/20/2014 4:47:11 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Wolfie

http://cnsnews.com/video/cnsnews/rep-huelskamp-define-marriage-mean-anything-means-its-relegated-nothing


12 posted on 06/20/2014 4:47:14 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Truth is like a lion. You don't have to defend it. Let it loose. It will defend itself")
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To: piusv

Yep, I guess all is lost...

except where it matters:

Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers(K)nor men who have sex with men[a](L) 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers(M) will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were.(N) But you were washed,(O) you were sanctified,(P) you were justified(Q) in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians+6&version=NIV

Is homosexuality punishment for something else...

the person or persons did?

Romans 1:1-27 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1%3A21-27&version=NIV

II Peter 2:2 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=II+Peter+2%3A2&version=NIV

Jude 1:4 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jude+1%3A4&version=NIV

Romans 1:28,29, 32...

32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death,(BJ) they not only continue to do these very things but also approve(BK) of those who practice them.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1&version=NIV

If we know it to be wrong and don’t say something...do we approve and deserve death?

Did Jesus approve the “Old Testament” laws? Yes.

Can he grant forgiveness? Yes.

How do we get forgiveness...Sinnner on the Cross prayer?

Had Jesus’ covenant/Testament gone into effect before his death?...or after...his death?

Hebrews 9:16
For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Hebrews 9:15-17 (in Context) Hebrews 9 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=death+of+the+testator&searchtype=phrase&version1=AKJV&language1=en&spanbegin=1&spanend=73

Men and brothers, what shall we do?

37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”(AW)

38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized,(AX) every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.(AY) And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.(AZ) 39 The promise is for you and your children(BA) and for all who are far off(BB)—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%202&version=NIV


13 posted on 06/20/2014 5:16:43 AM PDT by DavidLSpud ("Go and sin no more"-Rejoice always, pray continually...)
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To: NKP_Vet

People still watch the “ass clown” interesting


14 posted on 06/20/2014 5:21:38 AM PDT by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: DavidLSpud
Yep, I guess all is lost...except where it matters

Yes of course. When I say it's lost, I'm not speaking in matters of Truth.

15 posted on 06/20/2014 5:23:49 AM PDT by piusv
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To: tflabo

...”Who cares what pundit says this or what popular public poll says that concerning homosexual relations and its faux marriage tripe. The Bible is plainly clear on the topic.”...

The Bible is clear. This is my view and I am close to four homosexuals in my very large family with only one who is militant. I fear for them for their homosexuality is not their only difference. They have successful careers and one has adopted a child, but all, in spite of being a part of a loving and accepting family have big psychological and other issues. One has had a huge substance and gambling abuse issue. They do not mix well in their non-homosexual relationships..They are not good at allowing others to have their personal freedom. My own belief is that 2-4% of our population is not going to rule eternally. Some event will happen to destroy political correctness and then Mother Nature will exert her power which is to have the strong gender order necessary for human survival. Since man and womankind began, human instinct for 96-98% of human beings is heterosexual reproduction and that instinct cannot be forced out of the human DNA. Dictatorship may force revisions or distort it in major ways, such as Hitler tried with his ideas of a superior race, but it will not stand long term. Group marriage, etc., will not stand either, because those people will not get along with one another enough to remain civilized. Hedonism will not stand. We hear of the unseen hand in economics..Well, I believe that Mother Nature, made by God, is an unseen hand, too, and that, over time, consequences will always reset the human experience back to what was originally intended.


16 posted on 06/20/2014 5:44:08 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: jazzlite

They can’t rightly be called sane. They’re trading an eternity in heaven for a few short years of diseased depravity here on earth.


17 posted on 06/20/2014 6:03:00 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: NKP_Vet

(CNSNews.com) – In response to a federal judge’s ruling that Wisconsin’s ban on homosexual marriage was unconstitutional, Bishop Robert Morlino, head of the Catholic diocese of Madison, Wisc., said the judge had “shaken one of the most precious and essential building blocks of our civilization,” and that when this “first ‘domino’ of civilization’” – man-woman marriage – is toppled, then “all subsequent ‘dominos’” of civilization fall.

The bishop also said that in felling this first domino, “everything that is good, true, and beautiful, which is rooted in the natural family, is seriously threatened.”

AMEN!!!


18 posted on 06/20/2014 6:33:15 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Montana_Sam

I like Bret Baier. Brit Hume has said a few things lately that make me wonder about him.


19 posted on 06/20/2014 6:34:06 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: kingattax
megyn kelly has been smoking o’really in the ratings lately.
a lot of people don’t understand how this phony has kept an audience all these years.

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O'Reilly stays on because he speaks for so many that the mainstream media ignores. A "lot of people" have their head in the ground, or in Kelly's britches.

Megyn Kelly ISN'T on the air because she is a GORGEOUS blonde with a FABULOUS smile. Oh no, not at all.

O'Reilly, the "phony" you spoke about, SMOKED the ratings when he was the ONE and ONLY conservative talking head around. Ms. Kelly was still playin' her sand box when O'Reilly was TROUNCING the big networks.

Kelly is smart and I like her but Greta Van Susteren is the one who really must be good since she was Ms. PlainJane from the get-go. She had to DAZZLE the network with her brain, not her blonde-ness and $25,000. smile

UNFORTUNATELY Ms.Kelly will get old and wrinkles will start to show. She WILL be off the air while OLD MAN REILLY will continue.
Networks allow for old men news casters but NOT old women news casters. That is just the way of the world.
Women can't moan about gender issues because now there are WOMEN producers. THEY figured it out: sex sells. So they go with the SAME flow that men did. Nothing has changed except the whining of women libbers has to SHIFT to a new soap opera to whine about.

You can BET that Fox is lining up the next "Ms. Kelly" as we write.

20 posted on 06/20/2014 6:59:22 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: NKP_Vet

Has there been any society or culture that has recognized sodomite marriage till now?

Any mention in the Egyptian wall paintings where Pharaoh has a male wife? Any in Homer’s Illiad or Oddessy? None in the Aneid. Is there ANYWHERE the mention of a man having a man for a wife?

Even Nero’s famous “marriage” to his boy slave was mentioned because of it’s repugnance to ancient Roman Historians. And we know what happened to Nero.
While sodomy is mentioned at times still no marriage.

In Northern Mexico, in the 1500s there were found whole villages of sodomites who were living together but not considered “married” in the true sense.


21 posted on 06/20/2014 6:59:37 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Let’s make O’Reilly a full time author.


22 posted on 06/20/2014 7:01:51 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: NKP_Vet

“Male and female he created them.”

For a purpose, Bill. Start understanding your Bible.


23 posted on 06/20/2014 7:06:34 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Wolfie

Too bad so many conservatives still haven’t figured that out, and are busy rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.


24 posted on 06/20/2014 7:56:05 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: piusv

Traditional marriage was lost the moment it became a playground for adults and not a sacrament.


25 posted on 06/20/2014 8:04:24 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: piusv

When an activist Federal judge overrules the will of the people it is not the state making it legal. Only 3 states have actually voted for homosexual “marriage”, Maine, Maryland and Washington State. Bill Gates and other liberal milti-millionares bankrolled the homo “marriage” efforts in all three states, smothering the airways for their homosexual friends. In Washington State the homo “marriage” people outspent real marriage advocates 10-1. Hard to keep up with the richest man in the world. He also donotes millions of dollars for abortion on demand all across the country.


26 posted on 06/20/2014 8:11:16 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Truth is like a lion. You don't have to defend it. Let it loose. It will defend itself")
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“Has there been any society or culture that has recognized sodomite marriage till now”.

No. Not in the history of mankind. Sodomites can not produce children. Marriage is for the continuation of the species. Homosexuality up till a few years ago was always classified as a mental disorder. And it’s still a mental disorder. No matter what left-wing sodomite-loving democrats think.


27 posted on 06/20/2014 8:19:25 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Truth is like a lion. You don't have to defend it. Let it loose. It will defend itself")
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To: NKP_Vet

Bill O’Reilly should not be talking about anything about morals. He abused several women and caused one at Foxnews to be fired.


28 posted on 06/20/2014 9:14:37 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Salvation
For a purpose, Bill. Start understanding your Bible.

Bill is a social liberal. He rejects salvation through Jesus Christ.

29 posted on 06/20/2014 9:26:21 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: NKP_Vet

OK, technically not “legal”. My point is it’s happening and I really don’t see the momentum for gay marriage from stopping.


30 posted on 06/20/2014 11:33:36 AM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv

It will never be voted into law by the majority of the people in this country, especially in the Bible Belt. But that really makes no difference because the John Roberts Supreme Court will rule that sodomite “marriage” is the law of the land the minute they hear the case. Then polygamy, marrying your daughter, a mother marrying her son, marrying your dog, marrying your house, etc, anything goes. The reason is simple.If marriage is not the union of a man and woman it’s nothing. It means nothing and anything goes. Marriage has always been for the continuation of the species and for the upbringing of children, and for the betterment of mankind. It’s the natural order of things. Sodomite adoption will also be legalized in all states as a direct result of sodomite marriage being legalized. The Supreme Court in effect will have said if two lesbians are “married” this negates a man being necessary for the well being of the child. The natural order of things shot straight to hell. The same thing for two homosexual men. If they adopt a child that child will not have a mother. Makes no difference what sex the child is. What the Supreme Court is on the verge of doing in this country is destroying the very foundation of this country, the family unit. Been that way for thousands of years, but in the last 40 years men are not necessary and the 2% of the population that call themselves homosexual are all that matters. They control the agenda. If you voice your opinion and tell anyone you think it’s not right you will be charged with a hate crime. Welcome to ObamaLand. The land of fruits and nuts. Sodomite “marriage” will destroy this country.


31 posted on 06/20/2014 5:26:28 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Truth is like a lion. You don't have to defend it. Let it loose. It will defend itself")
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To: NKP_Vet

Maybe I’m reading you wrong, but I’m not sure why you keep lecturing me about something I agree with you on. My point again is that how ever it’s done it will become the law of the land in time. I don’t fault those who are trying to change the tides, but I just don’t think they will. We’re on a collision course. Period. That doesn’t mean we accept it.


32 posted on 06/21/2014 3:17:42 AM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv

Not lecturing you on anything. I post replies for everyone to read, your post just happened to be the one I replied to.
We do not have long for this world. God will not be mocked. Unless this country, and indeed the world has a spiritual awakening stick a fork in it it’s done.


33 posted on 06/21/2014 5:20:01 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Truth is like a lion. You don't have to defend it. Let it loose. It will defend itself")
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To: Essie
"I’ve often read that people are former viewers. He’s toast."

O'Reilly's "half-hearted" support for the obummer is sickening... He seems so much to want to support the obummer that he hem haws and says things like..."well, he really doesn't believe that way"...or, "I don't think he had any part in that decision"...or some other such BS...

O'Reilly's refusal to accept the fact that his president is a lying, two-faced, back stabbing, trader is going to lead not only HIS dimize but the end of our country as well....

Hell....it already has.

34 posted on 06/21/2014 6:13:51 AM PDT by unread (Rescind the 17th. Amendment...bring the power BACK to the states...!)
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