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Presbyterian Lay Committee Board of Directors Repudiates Action of PCUSA GA on Redefining Marriage
The Aquila Report ^ | June 21, 2014 | Carmen Fowler LaBerge

Posted on 06/21/2014 12:06:59 PM PDT by Gamecock

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To: HiTech RedNeck
Can’t congregations shrug off the PCUSA affiliation and go indy, or join a different conference?

Some have. The problem as they see it is that the home office holds the deeds to the building.

Local bodies have sued for the building and won. They left and joined the Evangelical Presbyterian Church or a new denomination called ECO, A Covenant Order of Evangelical Presbyterians.

One church recently paid the home office over $8,000,000 to leave with the building.

The OPC left without their buildings, which is why they have less architecturally impressive church buildings than many PC(USA) facilities.

IMHO the building issue is not a valid concern. Take the congregation and strike out in a conservative denomination.

21 posted on 06/21/2014 2:04:51 PM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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From an article in the Christian Post:

The Presbyterian Church (USA) continued its years-long trend of losing congregations and members in 2013, according to statistics released by the mainline Protestant denomination last week.

According to the data compiled by the PCUSA's Office of the General Assembly, by the end of 2013 membership was approximately 1.76 million, compared to approximately 1.84 million by the end of 2012.

Additionally, the number of PCUSA congregations decreased during 2013. There were 10,038 churches in 2013, versus 10,262 in 2012.

Of the 224 churches no longer with PCUSA, 148 of them were dismissed to other denominations while the remaining number were dissolved.

For the third straight year, the number of dismissed congregations increased, having been 21 in 2011, 110 in 2012, and 148 in 2013.

22 posted on 06/21/2014 2:44:50 PM PDT by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: Gamecock

I guess it would stink to have sunk funds into your building only to find that once the parent organization goes looie, it really wasn’t “yours.”

But fine, if that’s the game they want to play. I guess it would be wise to purchase it if reasonably possible, or look for a different place to meet. Some churches will host other ones at staggered hours, even cross-denominationally. I could easily see Baptist churches being sympathetic here.


23 posted on 06/21/2014 3:08:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

When the PCA formed in 1973 they devised a system that the money sent up to the General Assembly was voluntary on the part of each congregation. The church building is also owned by the congregation.

The PCA figured it all out.


24 posted on 06/21/2014 3:20:57 PM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: Gamecock

That sounds like a more reasonable way to keep congregations from getting lassoed into organizational follies.


25 posted on 06/21/2014 3:22:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Gamecock

The should leave...period.

BTW-We can talk about wheat and tares in the church until the cows come home. However, this is what happens when people do not understand and/or follow sound doctrine. So the next time someone states that doctrine isn’t important, they better think again.


27 posted on 06/21/2014 6:17:41 PM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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“When the PCA formed in 1973 they devised a system that the money sent up to the General Assembly was voluntary on the part of each congregation. The church building is also owned by the congregation.

The PCA figured it all out.”

Exactly. If say a PCA church wanted to join the OPC or vice versa, it’s very simple. One of the many reasons I like my denomination(PCA).


28 posted on 06/21/2014 6:33:19 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Gamecock

Amen.


29 posted on 06/21/2014 11:30:23 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Gamecock

I had always assumed that the great falling away would be tied to doctrinal issues, but clearly it is tied to moral issues. These churches have embraced sin rather than preach against it. Rather than tell people to repent of their sins they encourage them to embrace their sin and celebrate it.

There is a special place in Hell for the pastors of these churches. The regular places in Hell will be reserved for the congregants.


30 posted on 06/22/2014 1:18:14 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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You can’t get to this point without throwing doctrine out the window. The PC(USA) has been preparing for this moment for well over 150 years. They drank the koolaid of German theological liberalism and this us the result.

Hope you are well.


31 posted on 06/22/2014 4:00:20 AM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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