Posted on 07/06/2014 3:39:40 AM PDT by HarleyD
We already know that the 'church' is not the apostles, or magisterium as your religion calls them...
Act_8:1 And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.
Act_15:4 And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
So we see from the scriptures the apostles and the Catholic religion's false apostolic succession is NOT the church...
Paul says he has written so the people (the church) will know how to carry on in the body of Christ...
Well low and behold then, it is not the body, the church which is the pillar and ground of the truth...
It is the HEAD of the body which is the pillar and ground of the truth; GOD...
It is not surprising that your religion constantly tries to steal the glory of God as its own but what is always surprising is that so many of you repeat these perversions of scripture...
And right after the bible tells you 3 verses before that:
1Ti 3:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
Husbands...Of one wife...With children...Own houses...
This is not optional...
The bible certainly is an inconvenient book for your religion...
1Chronicles 27:2-3 Over the first course for the first month was Jashobeam the son of Zabdiel: and in his course were twenty and four thousand. He was of the children of Perez, the chief of all the captains of the host for the first month.
Later, Korah rebellion was to want to do the things God had not appointed for them to do. Korah felt that all the Levis should be able to enter the Holy of Holies. He wasn't content with the position God had placed him. It showed the contempt of Korah to submit the will of God.
We should be content with what God has given us.
Thanks so much for pointing that out. This is an excellent work and I really had hoped to find the author.
For a religion which perverts scripture to justify its existence, those questions have no legitimacy...
Jesus had children?
None of them...Expecially yours...The one closest to the truth of the scriptures is the church of Philadelphia...
Rev 3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
And it is not Peter who has the key of David...
Rev 3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Well that eliminates your religion right off the bat...You guys are the 'new' Jews...The 'new' Israel...
Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
It is your 'Church' that will not be delivered from the hour of temptation...In fact, your 'Church' doesn't even understand what the verse means...
LOLOLOL!!!
I’m always confusing this in my geology with ancestors and have to think (which is difficult) about which chart to print off (ancestors or descendants).
At least 2 months ago I answered every one of those questions to you. I got zero response. All the questions of course are silly, but if you want my answers you only have to check your pings
“That is your opinion.”
No, a fact.
“I take Scripture to mean what it says. I believe “This is my Body” means “This is my Body”
Actually, no one uses wooden literalism, unless they are ignorant.
“You are the one who needs to ‘interpret’ Scripture to support your man-made beliefs. You change the clear words of Scripture to say “This REPRESENTS my Body” By what authority can you change the words of Scripture?”
You are on the wrong thread. Perhaps you can start one on that topic and ping me.
“I’m puzzled and curious at why you believe that is an inaccurate statement.”
... Because it is unprovable and incorrect. But I was criticizing the whole article for the reasons I stated.
It wasn’t a “church” it was “ecclesia” and it certainly wasn’t the Catholic Church. In no way would God institute a “church” that incorporates paganism.
“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8-9
Please show us another source for what the apostles taught. If you can’t, we are left with what we know they wrote.
>>Other than the specific command to John to pen the Revelation, where did Jesus tell His apostles to write anything down and compile it into an authoritative book?<<
Do a search on how many times Jesus said “it is written”. Think that may be a hint?
>>Where in the New Testament do the apostles tell future generations that the Christian faith will be based solely on a book?<<
Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
Maybe a hint we should do the same?
>> Where is the concept of ‘Trinity” explained?<<
Where did the Catholic Church come up with it from?
>> Where is the concept of ‘Sola Scriptura’ explained?<<
“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8-9<<
Once again, please find another inspired source for what the apostles taught.
Did Christ eat His own body? When He said He would once again partake of the “fruit of the vine” did He mean that once again He would eat His own body? You perhaps should listen to what Jesus said about that concept.
John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
No where in scripture nor in that verse is the word “church” used as it is conceptualized by the Catholic Church. The word used is “ecclesia” which means an assembly of those called out. They were to take it to the “assembly” they worshiped with, not to some corrupted conglomerate that has become the Catholic Church. Catholics start with a corrupted term "church" and build many corrupted concepts that are totally against what scripture teaches.
You should really leave those kindergarten picture posts in the kindergarten caucus threads. Leave the adults to discuss adult issues
1Chronicles 27:2-3. Pointing out one person in a list dos not point to Christ. This verse simply says what his duty station was and when it was to be done, NOTHING more.
Numbers 2:2 There is nothing about Korah or his rebellion. This is simply the location of one group[ of Israelites in relation to the tent of meeting.
Judges 16:1 Sorry have to disagree, this is the exact opposite, Satan is running Samson. This is Samson violating the 6th commandment and fornicating out side of marriage.
Adults? Cretins who mock those who celebrate Christmas and Easter are hardly worthy of being called adults CB. Now go cry to the adults and point out that you made it personal but still whimper when called out anyhow. Whiner child.
In the Religion forum, on a thread titled The Reformers’ Hermeneutic: Grammatical, Historical, and Christ-Centered, CynicalBear wrote:
No where in scripture nor in that verse is the word “church” used as it is conceptualized by the Catholic Church.
This coming from an apostate whose claims are that those who celebrate Christmas, Easter and Sunday Worship are “pagan”.
An odd, wimpy and childish view, but there it is.
In NT Greek “Gospel” literally translates to “Good News.”
Nothing there about a bible, or even a book. If you want to hold to erroneous thoughts about Ekklesia than you need to be consistent at least with “Gospel”.
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