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To: FatherofFive
>>tell it to the church<<

No where in scripture nor in that verse is the word “church” used as it is conceptualized by the Catholic Church. The word used is “ecclesia” which means an assembly of those called out. They were to take it to the “assembly” they worshiped with, not to some corrupted conglomerate that has become the Catholic Church. Catholics start with a corrupted term "church" and build many corrupted concepts that are totally against what scripture teaches.

35 posted on 07/06/2014 2:20:10 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear; FatherofFive

In the Religion forum, on a thread titled The Reformers’ Hermeneutic: Grammatical, Historical, and Christ-Centered, CynicalBear wrote:

No where in scripture nor in that verse is the word “church” used as it is conceptualized by the Catholic Church.

This coming from an apostate whose claims are that those who celebrate Christmas, Easter and Sunday Worship are “pagan”.

An odd, wimpy and childish view, but there it is.


39 posted on 07/06/2014 2:36:03 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: CynicalBear
No where in scripture nor in that verse is the word “church” used as it is conceptualized by the Catholic Church. The word used is “ecclesia” which means an assembly of those called out.

Reality check: Latin, not English, is the official language of the Catholic Church. The Latin word translated into English as "church" is ... wait for it ... ecclesia.

111 posted on 07/07/2014 4:40:02 PM PDT by Campion
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In the Religion forum, on a thread titled The Reformers’ Hermeneutic: Grammatical, Historical, and Christ-Centered, FatherofFive responded to CB’s claims:

You are so wrong. Look here:

“If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector. “I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. Mat 81:15-18

And here:

“But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” 1Tim 3:15

Pay close attention here – “the pillar and foundation of truth” is a powerful statement. No “denomination” can be the Church that is the foundation of truth. Here Christ says, and Paul reaffirms, that the Church will always teach the TRUTH and will not be destroyed.

So where is the church? Where do you take your concerns? Is it the Church you started last year? This makes no sense whatsoever without the visible Church Christ established with teaching authority, and the power to loose and bind. The ONE that existed from the time of Christ.

Think about it. Would Christ establish his Church – to teach the way, the truth – and allow thousands of interpretation as to what is the truth? If the Church doesn’t teach the Truth, Christ is a liar. If He would allow multiple versions of Truth, he’d be an idiot. I don’t believe He is either.


122 posted on 07/08/2014 10:09:39 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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