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How Sex is Derailing Lutheran-Orthodox Dialogue
First Things ^ | 7/8/14 | Mathew Block

Posted on 07/08/2014 7:52:36 PM PDT by marshmallow

"The outcome of the dialogue in Tallinn was sobering, as it is difficult to come closer on substantive issues. The question of women’s ordination is regarded as church-dividing, at least from the Orthodox angle . . . Consequently I think we on the Lutheran side have to think about whether progress in dialogue is to be expected at all.”

These sobering reflections come from Rev. Dr. Jennifer Wasmuth, a participant in the Joint Commission for theological dialogue between the Lutheran World Federation (LWF) and the Orthodox Church, following recent discussions in Estonia. The meeting, which took place May 8-13, focused on the question of women’s ordination. If Wasmuth’s words above are anything to go by, it doesn’t sound like it was the most fruitful of discussions.

As Wasmuth explains, “The simple and crucial difference is that ordaining women is not recognized in Orthodox churches, while in most Lutheran churches it is not only recognized but already practiced.”

This is not exactly news—female ordination among churches of the Lutheran World Federation has been a perennial strain on ecumenical relations with the Orthodox (and Roman Catholics for that matter) for some time. The election of female bishops by some Lutherans has only exacerbated tensions. In 2010, for example, the election of a female bishop in the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland prompted statements of concern from the nation’s Catholic and Orthodox leaders. “As a theological decision, it is a step away from efforts toward unity,” Archbishop Leo of the Finnish Orthodox Church noted.

A year earlier, the election of a woman as head bishop of the Evangelical Church in Germany (EKD) brought a quick rebuke from the Russian Orthodox Church. “We planned to celebrate the 50th anniversary of our dialogue with the Lutheran Church in Germany in late November or early December,”.....

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To: BipolarBob
No dissin' the hat. The Popes mitre is wicked cool. Whatever the Catholics shortcomings (I know it's a long list), they know hats.

Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby

"So there I was at Sea World...and suddenly it hit me.....cool huh?

41 posted on 07/09/2014 3:27:17 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Covenantor

Yeah, it’s got that Sea World thing going on for it alright. I’ve got to tip my hat to them on this one.


42 posted on 07/09/2014 3:33:57 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Obama - The Scandal a Week President.)
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To: BipolarBob
"Yeah, it’s got that Sea World thing going on for it alright. I’ve got to tip my hat to them on this one.

BipolarBob, that Archbishop with that hat is a protestant.

43 posted on 07/09/2014 3:52:52 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Our hearts are restless, Lord, until they rest in Thee." - St. Augustine)
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To: marshmallow
The situation has been exacerbated by the election of Elizabeth Eaton as Presiding Bishop of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA)
44 posted on 07/09/2014 6:43:58 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: Heart-Rest
BipolarBob, that Archbishop with that hat is a protestant.

So. I knew that. What's your point?

45 posted on 07/09/2014 7:16:13 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Obama - The Scandal a Week President.)
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