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What Was the Climate and Weather Of Israel Like at the Time of Jesus?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | July 10, 2014 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 07/10/2014 1:12:27 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 07/10/2014 1:12:27 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Climate factors into Scripture ... this is an interesting aspect often overlooked when reading through the Bible.


2 posted on 07/10/2014 1:14:40 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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Remember this also.

Egypt was the bread basket for the world during this time. I remember a few classes about agriculture where the professor said that with the methods they used then, it would not be possible to produce the amount of grain that they were supposed have done in today’s climate.

Another thing to remember is when the Spanish came to what is now New Mexico, they ran into various Indian tribes that had moved down there to grow corn. The place where they moved from was to desolate to support agriculture any more.

We call that place Iowa, and have some of the best farm land in the world.

Climate shifts. Often dramatically.


3 posted on 07/10/2014 1:17:08 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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It was a tragic loss for the Byzantines when they lost Egypt to the Muslims. I always wondered why Egypt couldn’t throw the yoke of Roman rule and govern themselves.


4 posted on 07/10/2014 1:23:50 PM PDT by Sawdring
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5 posted on 07/10/2014 1:26:56 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: NYer
A mere 18,000 years ago, there was no Cheseapeake Bay. The Susquehana and other rivers cut their way to the continental slope. Their channels still can be seen in the bay and out to the slope, when the water is removed.

However, when I visited the Outer Banks and/or Virginia Beach in the late 1960, I observed the hotels, beach, and water's edge in the exact same place as it is today.


6 posted on 07/10/2014 1:32:42 PM PDT by mbarker12474
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“this is an interesting aspect often overlooked when reading through the Bible.”

Sure. Like I’m interested what the weather was like when Christ was crucified. Was it snowing?


7 posted on 07/10/2014 1:32:59 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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Three mighty rivers once flowed through the Sahara
http://io9.com/three-mighty-rivers-once-flowed-through-the-sahara-1316516244

The world’s most famous desert isn’t always quite so dry as it is now—thanks to the Earth shifting on its axis, the Sahara’s climate gets gradually greener over tens of thousands of years. But you’d have to go back a long ways to find real, perennial rivers flowing through the Sahara outside of the Nile. But 100,000 years ago, the Sahara was awash with rivers that might well have led humanity’s ancestors to the Mediterranean.

That’s a possibility raised by new work from an international team of researchers, whose computer simulations suggest the presence of massive river systems in the Sahara between 130,000 and 100,000 years ago.


Did you notice they say desertification of the Sahara (and the area surrounding it) is blamed on the shifting of the Earth’s axis? Looks like the shifting is continuing.

Milankovitch Cycles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles

Milankovitch theory describes the collective effects of changes in the Earth’s movements upon its climate, named after Serbian geophysicist and astronomer Milutin Milankovich, who worked on it during his internment as a First World War prisoner of war (POW). Milankovich mathematically theorized that variations in eccentricity, axial tilt, and precession of the Earth’s orbit determined climatic patterns on Earth through orbital forcing.

The Earth’s orbit is an ellipse. The eccentricity is a measure of the departure of this ellipse from circularity. The shape of the Earth’s orbit varies in time between nearly circular (low eccentricity of 0.000055) and mildly elliptical (high eccentricity of 0.0679)[3] with the mean eccentricity of 0.0019 as geometric or logarithmic mean and 0.034 as arithmetic mean, the latter useless. The major component of these variations occurs on a period of 413,000 years (eccentricity variation of ±0.012). A number of other terms vary between components 95,000 and 125,000 years (with a beat period 400,000 years), and loosely combine into a 100,000-year cycle (variation of -0.03 to +0.02). The present eccentricity is 0.017.


8 posted on 07/10/2014 1:37:31 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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18,000 years ago sea level was about 460 to 500 feet lower than it is today which brings right to the edge of the continental shelf.


9 posted on 07/10/2014 1:38:56 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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From what I’ve read, In the time of the TURKS, they imposed a tax on all trees so the people went out and cut them down. No trees, no tax.


10 posted on 07/10/2014 1:40:58 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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The climate in Palestine

There was no "Palestine" it was "Judea".

11 posted on 07/10/2014 1:43:45 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Did you read the article? It concludes with this statement:

Disclaimer – I am writing a series of reflections to prepare for a Bible Study of Life at the Time of Jesus. I am sharing some of these here. Please do not consider this article in any way as associating with the climate change debate that currently rages. If there are differences in the climate today compared to 2000 years ago, they are minor. Climate is always changing on this planet in both macro and micro ways. To what degree man is involved in this, I cannot say. This is not a science blog, and I do not wish to engage that issue here.

12 posted on 07/10/2014 2:03:58 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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Did you read post #8?


13 posted on 07/10/2014 2:05:36 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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Hydrazine didn’t post anything about the anthropomorphic controversy as far as I can see.


14 posted on 07/10/2014 2:09:30 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
They found Crocodiles a few years ago in the desert caves and oasis of the lower Sahara that are leftover remains from the lush savannah and grasslands[8k -10k bce] of present day desert.
15 posted on 07/10/2014 2:14:45 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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Well just like today, very warm.


16 posted on 07/10/2014 2:15:15 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Yet, thank the present day Israel for for rebuilding the land itself.


17 posted on 07/10/2014 2:16:42 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: redgolum
Egypt was the bread basket for the world during this time.

I thought it was Carthage, which is why the Punic Wars were central to the success of the Roman Republic, and later the Empire.

18 posted on 07/10/2014 2:42:20 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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Having been to Israel, there is no way that I would consider the country, other than the immediate shoreline as being anything but HOT from late May to early October. Plus, the humidity can be quite high and the sun is very intense. Sure, if one frequents the beaches of Tel Aviv and up the coast, there are gentle to strong breezes which can keep one cool. However, venture a short distance from the shoreline, and one will sweat profusely.


19 posted on 07/10/2014 2:47:24 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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Having been to Israel, there is no way that I would consider the country, other than the immediate shoreline as being anything but HOT from late May to early October.

This weather pattern prevails in most countries around the Mediterranean and Adriatic. I spent many summers in Italy. The heat builds up during the summer months and by August, the entire country goes on vacation to seaside resorts to escape the heat inland. I recall one summer when a scirocco struck, carrying sand up from the Sahara. Shutters were shut tight to maintain the cool interior while shielding homes from the sandy wind.

However, venture a short distance from the shoreline, and one will sweat profusely.

Throughout history, civilizations developed and expanded adjacent to sources of water. It was also the cause for many historic wars.

20 posted on 07/10/2014 3:10:54 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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