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Obama Administration’s Border-Crisis Plan B: Use the Catholic Church
NRO ^ | July 10, 2014 | Ryan Lovelace

Posted on 07/11/2014 4:42:44 AM PDT by NYer

"In order to avoid future clashes with the citizens of Murrieta, Calif., over attempts to transfer illegal immigrants there, the Obama administration has turned to an unusual bedfellow: the Catholic Church. Deacon Luis Sanchez of the Diocese of San Bernardino tells National Review Online that an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent approached the diocese on July 2, 2014, and “expressed his desire for the Church to help in helping these families reach their destination.” Since that time, he says, diocesan officials have spoken on the phone with ICE, and they held a planning meeting on Monday.

John Andrews, the diocese’s director of communications who attended the planning meeting, tells NRO that the idea is to set up “transitional centers” where volunteers and representatives from Catholic Charities would provide food, medical, and spiritual care for families who have been processed at a Border Patrol station. He says he hopes to help the people pushed out of Murrieta, and would need to accommodate 140 people arriving every three days. Andrews says he expects the centers will house mostly mothers and their children for one or two days. But if there’s a situation where a family needs to stay longer than a day or two, he says that placing illegal immigrants with a local family would represent a “very viable option.”#ad#

Andrews says several of the parishes within the diocese might be used as part of the plan, but he would not provide details about the locations he disclosed at Monday’s planning meeting. He has withheld such details, he says, because he does not want to invite the “type of folks who gathered in Murrieta to protest” to disrupt their plans. “They [the Murrieta protesters] don’t see the immigrant in the same way we do, which is as a human being that’s created in God’s image with dignity, just like everyone else,” he says.

Some Church officials appear to take the view that the “type of folks who gathered in Murrieta” must be seen differently from the immigrants. In her blog, Sister Mary Ann Walsh, director of media relations for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said that images of the Murrieta protesters recalled the “fire hoses and snarling police dogs in Birmingham, Alabama, used against African-American students protesting racial segregation.” The images also reminded her of a picture of a “little girl in North Vietnam running terrified and naked with burning skin after South Vietnamese planes accidently dropped napalm on Trang Bang” in 1972. Walsh referred derisively to the “mob in Murrieta,” and wrote that she awaits a “moral conscience moment” similar to what occurred with the passage of civil-rights legislation 50 years ago and the moment when the U.S. pulled out of Vietnam.

Parishioners in San Bernardino do not uniformly share Walsh’s view of illegal immigrants flooding into their community, however. One couple who attended the planning meeting called into Rush Limbaugh’s radio show to offer an alternative position. Eddie, a caller identifying himself as a retired doctor, said he’s concerned about the spread of illnesses that might result from the plan put together by the Obama administration and the Catholic Church. “We’ve got FEMA facilities that can provide medical care, housing, nutrition and clothing, safety and transportation, and stabilize the situation so that these people can be reintegrated or be dealt with,” Eddie said. “But to put us and subject us to health-care problems, risk, whatever you want to call it, seems to be an incompetence on behalf of the government when they themselves, these different agencies are not talking to each other.”

It may come as a surprise that government officials are collaborating with the Catholic Church, given recent conflict between the two. The Little Sisters of the Poor faced hefty fines when they challenged the Obamacare contraception mandate. While the Obama administration objects to the kind of health care the Little Sisters would like to provide their employees, it is working on a plan with the Diocese of San Bernardino to allow Catholic Church officials to provide medical attention to illegal immigrants, according to Andrews. And though Massachusetts state government officials have shuttered Catholic Charities’ adoption service, churchgoers in California may soon be permitted by federal government officials to house entire families in their homes.

The Los Angeles ICE office did not return requests for comment about the plan, and Sanchez and Andrews would not disclose the name of the ICE official who has worked with the diocese. But if the plan described by Andrews comes through, the Obama administration may begin using the Catholic Church to shepherd immigrants all over the country.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Politics
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To: defconw
I am educated in my faith. The Catholics on here know what I am talking about. Non-Catholics, all I can say is you can't learn it all in a day. It takes a lifetime. It's a journey not a destination.

Bravo. Appreciate what you've been saying.

61 posted on 07/11/2014 2:39:46 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: JPX2011

Thank You, I appreciate your appreciation. I really do. :)


62 posted on 07/11/2014 2:47:26 PM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: glennaro

Well said. God bless you, glennaro.


63 posted on 07/11/2014 3:31:38 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: bonfire

Very much appreciated, bonfire.


64 posted on 07/11/2014 3:38:18 PM PDT by glennaro
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To: don-o
Some precision of thought is required. Performing the Corporal Works of Mercy is not contingent; nor is it wrongdoing.

The most obvious corporal work of mercy would be to:
honor God's commandment to honor thy mother and father
and hence return these children ASAP to their mothers and fathers back in their home countries!

By taking them in, Catholics play RIGHT into Obama's hands. Insane!

65 posted on 07/11/2014 3:56:54 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: defconw

“but they didn’t. They are here. “

There’s another way to look at a compassionate response.

You poor thing.
Let’s get you washed and fed.
Let’s get you some clean clothes.
And let’s help you go find your parents. They must be terrified that you are gone!

And for those over 18:
Go home. You have your own country. Fix it.


66 posted on 07/11/2014 4:14:09 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: defconw
The Cardinal is putting faith before politics.

Did you mean to say that he's putting politics before faith?

That has been his consistent modus operandi and he's certainly far from alone among the hierarchy.

As part of the Catholic choir, I would prefer that Church leaders defend the Faith rather than serve as political tools for the New World Order.

67 posted on 07/11/2014 4:29:50 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: combat_boots
Right! What have I been saying? I don't want them to stay. I really can't get over the could of should of would of crowd. The horse is out of the barn, now we have to figure out how to get them back home. The Catholic Church does not exist in a vacuum, we can reach out to their parishes in their old country and make sure they are SAFELY returned.

I don't direct this at you but for those who want to stomp their feet and make it go away. Wish in one hand and spit in the other and see which one fills up first.

How about working the problem. Can we do that?

68 posted on 07/11/2014 4:33:54 PM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: BlatherNaut
Yes, I meant politics before faith. Thanks for correcting me. Of course I need to go put a helmet on because the parsing crowd will now hound me for days.

To them: I know there are two eternal truths, there is a God and I am not him! I mistyped. SUE ME!

69 posted on 07/11/2014 4:37:31 PM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: NYer
Andrews says he expects the centers will house mostly mothers and their children for one or two days. But if there’s a situation where a family needs to stay longer than a day or two, he says that placing illegal immigrants with a local family would represent a “very viable option.”

Wait a minute! Mothers and their children? I thought all these folks were children unaccompanied by their parents. Where did all the Mamas come from?
Don't tell me the MSM is LYING to us about just who is coming over the border! /S

70 posted on 07/11/2014 9:13:31 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: defconw
Well at least tax payers won't be paying for them.

Oh yes we will. Catholic Charities provides many of its services to the poor through government grants.

71 posted on 07/11/2014 9:15:16 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Excellent letter!


72 posted on 07/11/2014 9:21:14 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
You do know that most charitable organizations apply for government grants? So yes some of your money goes to these grants. Lutherans do the same. But...faith based organizations get more bang for that buck then the government would.

Also it is important to remember that you are talking about only CCUSA, We have a world fund as well and I am certain they will be asked to kick in.

Bammy wants to hire 20,000 more feds. The church will get volunteers.

73 posted on 07/11/2014 9:48:55 PM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: defconw

Pretty tired of the bashing and snide remarks.

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Amen...I definitely agree. I happen to know several really good folks from the San Bernadino diocese and they are good people and patriots. They are very aware of the horror of Obama’s abortion agenda.


74 posted on 07/12/2014 6:12:10 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: defconw

I just get sick of the Church getting beat up over everything.

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Me too. There is a good amount of ignorance behind a majority of that though.

Thanks for all of your good posts on this subject. ;-)


75 posted on 07/12/2014 6:18:58 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: defconw; SuziQ; NYer; Mrs. Don-o; don-o
You do know that most charitable organizations apply for government grants? So yes some of your money goes to these grants.

The problem with this is twofold:

  1. First, the government grants all have strings on them. When an organization accepts a government grant, that organization must accept the strings that come with the grant. Consider, for example:
    • Homosexual adoption. Virtually all diocesan Catholic Charities (CC) act as adoption agencies either working in close cooperation with the government or as a contractor for the government. With the advance of the homosexual agenda in this country, diocesan CC are pressured to place children with homosexual singles or even homosexual couples.
      • We have seen cases where diocesan CC have been forced to shut down rather than being forced to place children with homosexual couples. Good for them on that point. However:
      • I have yet to hear about a diocesan CC refusing to place a child with a single homosexual. Yet single people adopt children all the time these days. You KNOW that if this happened, there would be a huge uproar.
    • While most Catholic hospitals do not provide abortions, how many do not refer to other facilities? (I remember Michael Voris' crew doing an expose on this in Detroit, as an example. The results were not pleasing).
    • And lots of other examples that we could all think of…
  2. When dependence upon government grants occurs, the works of mercy become the focus rather than Christ. The dependence upon alms and the "free gift" is critical to the equation -- and that is lost when the funding comes from government forced taxation rather than from alms freely given. Benedict XVI discussed the importance of the free gift in the equation extensively in both Deus Caritas Est and Caritas in Veritate (do a search on the word "charity" in the former and "gratuitousness" in the latter). I just posted an article about the fallout from the Sister Margaret McBride case here that is worth reading in this context. Further, though I praised the bishops of Illinois above regarding their stand on homosexual adoption, that is not the totality of the situation...the bishop had to discharge Catholic Charities from being affiliated with the Church. (source) -- could it be because the social workers who were employees of Catholic Charities thought it more important to perform the "corporal work of mercy" that they forgot that they were part of the Church?

    If God blesses us with more bishops who actually take their jobs seriously, we may end up seeing this more and more.

    If God gives us the bishops we deserve, we will end up seeing more and more where Church teachings are compromised...and the substance that greases those skids will be government money

</rant off>

76 posted on 07/12/2014 6:48:30 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: SumProVita

Thanks for the post. It helps me keep going!


77 posted on 07/12/2014 7:10:42 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: markomalley; don-o
I agree. I think CCUSA needs to figure out another way. Of course the liberal Bishops will always turn to the feds. So I guess we really need to pray for our Bishops. Satan rejoices when he turns a Bishop.

Bishops need to be really careful when these chose to deal with politicians. The Bishops motives may be pure, but politicians not so much. I think much of the vitriol on this forum about our clergy is because people don't understand our clergy. They are different so they get picked on. We just know that a priest is not one dimensional. I imagine some think he just sits in the confessional all day waiting for us horrible Catholics to show up and spill the beans. LOL I can't recall the last time I used a confessional. I see no reason not to go face to face. But I'll save that for another day.

I digress. I admire don-o's letter. That is a great example of a strong but respectful protest. I believe the Cardinal will actually read and think about that letter. Really well done.

78 posted on 07/12/2014 7:23:43 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: defconw; Mrs. Don-o
I digress. I admire don-o's letter.

That was Mrs. Don-o's letter. Although I sometimes serve as an editor for her work, she did all of that one by herself.

79 posted on 07/12/2014 7:33:21 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o; Mrs. Don-o

My mistake. It was an awesome letter. Struck the right tone and was respectful. Unless he’s a dunce it will make him think.


80 posted on 07/12/2014 7:47:00 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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