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Is There Growing Confusion over Church Teaching?
Crisis Magazine ^ | July 16, 2014 | Dr. William Oddie

Posted on 07/16/2014 4:18:13 AM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer
Is There Growing Confusion over Church Teaching?

Not according to the Nancy Pelosis and other famous "catholic leaders" of our time.

Their teachings on matters of Catholic doctrine are widely distributed throughout pop culture and fairly well known these days.

21 posted on 07/16/2014 6:45:22 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: redgolum

That was why the Eastern Orthodox practice in regards to marriage was looked at early this year.


22 posted on 07/16/2014 6:47:49 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: defconw
Your comment mirrors my own thoughts. Francis tends to speak off the cuff; the problem is that, despite using common parlance, he 'assumes' the listener is familiar and supportive of the Catholic Church's positions. This gets him into trouble. This most recent non interview with the Italian atheist reporter is a good example. The reporter neither takes nor records notes. Twice, he has purportedly misquoted Pope Francis. Why give him a 3rd opportunity?

It does not seem that he is used to dealing with parishioners and ordinary people.

Here, I disagree. He spent a great deal of time riding the bus and visiting with the poor in Argentina. For a while, I kept a list of "francisisms", such as:

To newly appointed bishops: "Don't be airport bishops" (bishops who spend too much time away from their dioceses)
To pastors: The Confessional is not a 'torture chamber'
The Sacrament of the Eucharist is not a 'magic rite'
On the need to be politically active: “Don’t respond to the crisis with a Pontius Pilate-like attitude”
To Vatican Police on spiritual war: “Napoleon is not coming anymore”
Pope Francis speaks out against "Christians at half-speed" (one who professes to be a christian but lives like a pagan).
Pope Francis says Confession is not like going to see a psychiatrist
Pope Francis: A bishop is to serve, not dominate
On wanting physical proof: Our Lady doesn't work in a post office, She doesn't mail out letters every day
Pope Francis: our faith is 'not an ornament'
On what it means to be a christian: Do you want to live your life like a burning lamp, or an extinguished one?
The Cross is not an ornament but the mystery of God's love.
Don't live the faith as if it were a non-stop funeral.
Pope Francis: Pray with your heart, not like a parrot
Pope: The Church isn't a rental unit... it's a home

These reflect his approach of expressing church teaching in common terms. Like you, I loved the example of living a truly christian life set by St. JPII and hold Benedict XVI's gift for drawing us deeper into theology. Francis is a conundrum.

23 posted on 07/16/2014 7:00:34 AM PDT by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: Tax-chick

There are plenty of copies of the Catechisms out there. I have even both the American bishops copy and one called “ This is Our Faith”.


24 posted on 07/16/2014 7:11:46 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

Which is a decent place to start, though I will admit ignorance over the conformity in the Orthodox churches over this.


25 posted on 07/16/2014 7:13:05 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: defconw
Worst thing if you are one of those gray fuzzy people who like to pretend there are gray areas. Because if you read the thing, there is no gray! I love the CCC. When I get static from a certain sector I say have you read the CCC, no?. You should is what I say. No excuses! No more hiding behind the I didn't understand the Encyclical etc.

Sadly certain anti-Catholic bigots like to ask: "Who interprets the CCC?, it's turtles all the way down." That is a direct quote.

Being Catholic is great! It's also a contact sport and it sure ain't easy a lot of times

Amen brother testify

26 posted on 07/16/2014 7:34:23 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: defconw

I love the Catechism. We read from it every morning; today we got to Paragraph 1,121.

If my family members don’t know their Faith, it won’t be through a lack of effort on my part!


27 posted on 07/16/2014 7:53:20 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Sometimes I like to drink all by myself.)
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To: NYer
I had not seen some of those sayings. I like them. They are really very witty. Humor does not always translate well, as we know. I think I got so spoiled because JPII's English was so good.

It is a conundrum, this immigration/invasion. As A Catholic my heart hurts for these people. What can we do, what should we do? As an American I am upset because I know this is being orchestrated by the other side. They are using these people to create a crisis. This crisis could eventually lead to civil war, martial law, who knows? In the meantime, here on Free Republic it's bash the Catholics number 1 Billion and 2.

I stated before, I will give up politics before I give up my faith. But should we have to? Should those of us who are Catholic just drop out? Most especially those of us on the right who face derision at Church and on here. It's so exhausting sometimes. But then there is the cross and what right do I have to complain? John Paul the Great, Pray for Us!

28 posted on 07/16/2014 7:54:39 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: Biggirl

The answers in the Baltimore Catechism are still correct, too. They’re just not as in-depth as the CCC.


29 posted on 07/16/2014 7:54:57 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Sometimes I like to drink all by myself.)
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To: verga
Well, I generally would not ask a Catholic bigot whether they read the CCC, because of course they haven't. I am just talking about Catholics or those who claim to be Catholics.

The other are always worried about who interprets the CCC, but they are same people who want me to believe their interpretation of scripture. Funny I should quit the Catholic church and join, which of the 51,000 different Protestant denominations?

Bah! I'll keep the hot mess I belong to! Love you all! Keep fighting the fight!

Just my opinion but when it comes to religion it seems liberals and protestants sound a lot alike. Maybe it's just me.

30 posted on 07/16/2014 8:09:06 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: Tax-chick

I know that to be true! If there were more like you. They have one for kids, have you tired that one?


31 posted on 07/16/2014 8:10:06 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: ThomasMore
Do we not believe that the Holy Spirit directs the Church in the Popes selection/election?

Only if the electors are open to the Holy Spirit. I don't believe the majority of Cardinals today are open to anything but church politics.

32 posted on 07/16/2014 8:26:01 AM PDT by pgkdan (ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF THE ANTICHRIST!)
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To: defconw

My captive audience each day at 6:30 a.m. ranges in age from 2-1/2 to 52. I know the CCC is over the heads of some of them, but I’m really aiming at the 14-and-up group, the ones who have questions and need to be reminded that there are good answers available.


33 posted on 07/16/2014 8:30:00 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Sometimes I like to drink all by myself.)
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To: Tax-chick

I know you can bring it down for the little people. I tried teaching the little ones. I prefer Junior High and up.


34 posted on 07/16/2014 8:34:05 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: defconw

I do other things to teach the little children. It’s important to work on the older ones now.


35 posted on 07/16/2014 8:35:52 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Sometimes I like to drink all by myself.)
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To: defconw; Tax-chick

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36 posted on 07/16/2014 8:37:28 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: defconw

Virtual High Fives.


37 posted on 07/16/2014 8:42:20 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: Salvation; defconw; Tax-chick

It is from Christopher Cardinal Schoenborn so you know it is a faithful rendition.


38 posted on 07/16/2014 8:44:37 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: Salvation
I have not taught in a while, but I just read some of the reviews. I would use it. I think it's looks good.

My favorite thing was after I stepped aside from Youth Ministry was that we started the Lifeteen! (I was getting to long in the tooth). :) Anyway, the kid that took over is now a priest.

Anyway I think that the fastest way to turn kids off is to me to dry. So anything like this is just so much the better.

39 posted on 07/16/2014 8:46:39 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: verga

Back at you!


40 posted on 07/16/2014 8:47:53 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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