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To: PieterCasparzen

“We pray directly to God in the name of Jesus Christ, as our mediator.”

So do we.

“Christ does not share his role as mediator; we can not pray to God in any name other than Jesus’ name.”

If He doesn’t share His role, then you can’t pray for anyone.


33 posted on 07/31/2014 3:22:28 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
“We pray directly to God in the name of Jesus Christ, as our mediator.”

So do we.

“Christ does not share his role as mediator; we can not pray to God in any name other than Jesus’ name.”

If He doesn’t share His role, then you can’t pray for anyone.


I am alive, not dead. So when I pray for someone else, I am praying to God in the name of Christ but I am not a heavenly mediator interceding with Christ on behalf of the person I am praying for. I am offering my own prayer, not an intercession, because I have no power to intercede with Christ on someone's behalf. I can only offer a prayer, and whether or not God hears my prayer would be subject to what Holy Scripture declares in various verses where it says that God hears or does not hear prayers. Some examples of these verses:

Isaiah 1:15 "And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood."

Psalm 10:17 "17 Lord, thou hast heard the desire of the humble: thou wilt prepare their heart, thou wilt cause thine ear to hear:"

There are, of course, many verses on the topic.

I have no special access to God hearing my prayers than any other person; therefore, I am not a God-man mediator.

Of course, Christ's position as mediator is completely unique, as no one is worthy to be in the presence of God without the one-time, perfect atoning sacrifice of Christ, thus Christ is the the one mediator between God and man, and we must pray to God in the name of Jesus Christ. This is taught in the Bible and it is clearly taught.

If a person has died and has gone to be with the Lord, and then we pray to that person that they would intercede with Christ for us, we are attributing to them a mediatorial role and we are believing in a heresy, since this is a significant concept that would need to be clearly stated in Scripture in order for it to be Scriptural, yet it is not mentioned at all, and it stands clearly contradictory to the many verses which teach a doctrine that Christ is the only mediator between God and man. While scripture does exhort living believers to pray for each other, it simply does not teach that we should pray to dead believers.
38 posted on 07/31/2014 7:44:08 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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