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Vatican calls on Muslim leaders to condemn ISIL: “No cause, no religion, can justify such barbarity”
The Deacon's Bench ^ | August 12, 2014 | Deacon Greg Kandra

Posted on 08/12/2014 2:58:12 PM PDT by NYer

iraqi christians weep

From CNS:

The Vatican called on Muslim leaders to condemn the “barbarity” and “unspeakable criminal acts” of Islamic State militants in Iraq, saying a failure to do so would jeopardize the future of interreligious dialogue.

“The plight of Christians, Yezidis and other religious and ethnic communities that are numeric minorities in Iraq demands a clear and courageous stance on the part of religious leaders, especially Muslims, those engaged in interfaith dialogue and everyone of goodwill,” said a statement from the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue released by the Vatican Aug. 12.

The full statement, from the Vatican:

The whole world has witnessed with incredulity what is now called the “Restoration of the Caliphate,” which had been abolished on October 29, 1923 by Kamal Ataturk, founder of modern Turkey. Opposition to this “restoration” by the majority of religious institutions and Muslim politicians has not prevented the “Islamic State” jihadists from committing and continuing to commit unspeakable criminal acts.

This Pontifical Council, together with all those engaged in interreligious dialogue, followers of all religions, and all men and women of good will, can only unambiguously denounce and condemn these practices which bring shame on humanity:

-the massacre of people on the sole basis of their religious affiliation;

-the despicable practice of beheading, crucifying and hanging bodies in public places;

-the choice imposed on Christians and Yezidis between conversion to Islam, payment of a tax (jizya) or forced exile;

-the forced expulsion of tens of thousands of people, including children, elderly, pregnant women and the sick;

-the abduction of girls and women belonging to the Yezidi and Christian communities as spoils of war (sabaya);

-the imposition of the barbaric practice of infibulation;

-the destruction of places of worship and Christian and Muslim burial places;

-the forced occupation or desecration of churches and monasteries;

-the removal of crucifixes and other Christian religious symbols as well as those of other

religious communities;

-the destruction of a priceless Christian religious and cultural heritage;

-indiscriminate violence aimed at terrorizing people to force them to surrender or flee.

No cause, and certainly no religion, can justify such barbarity. This constitutes an extremely serious offense to humanity and to God who is the Creator, as Pope Francis has often reminded us. We cannot forget, however, that Christians and Muslims have lived together – it is true with ups and downs – over the centuries, building a culture of peaceful coexistence and civilization of which they are proud. Moreover, it is on this basis that, in recent years, dialogue between Christians and Muslims has continued and intensified.

The dramatic plight of Christians, Yezidis and other religious communities and ethnic minorities in Iraq requires a clear and courageous stance on the part of religious leaders, especially Muslims, as well as those engaged in interreligious dialogue and all people of good will. All must be unanimous in condemning unequivocally these crimes and in denouncing the use of religion to justify them. If not, what credibility will religions, their followers and their leaders have? What credibility can the interreligious dialogue that we have patiently pursued over recent years have?

Religious leaders are also called to exercise their influence with the authorities to end these crimes, to punish those who commit them and to reestablish the rule of law throughout the land, ensuring the return home of those who have been displaced. While recalling the need for an ethical management of human societies, these same religious leaders must not fail to stress that the support, funding and arming of terrorism is morally reprehensible.

That said, the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue is grateful to all those who have already raised their voices to denounce terrorism, especially that which uses religion to justify it.

Let us therefore unite our voices with that of Pope Francis: “May the God of peace stir up in each one of us a genuine desire for dialogue and reconciliation. Violence is never defeated by violence. Violence is defeated by peace. “



TOPICS: Catholic; Islam; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: istanbul; popefrancis; romancatholicism; turkey

1 posted on 08/12/2014 2:58:12 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

This may be a wake up call for Pope Francis. I hope he hears the SILENCEE emanating from the Muslim leaders.


2 posted on 08/12/2014 2:59:17 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

Vatican says, “Pretend to be upset about ISIL.” Save it. If they haven’t condemned them by now, why would you want them to? It’s better they just come out in the open and show everyone who they are.


3 posted on 08/12/2014 3:00:25 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: NYer

May God protect the Vatican and all Catholics. I’m sure the Vatican is on the hit list for these barbarians.


4 posted on 08/12/2014 3:03:19 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

 

Prayer for Iraq

O God, who art the unsearchable abyss of peace,
the ineffable sea of love, the fountain of blessings
and the bestower of affection,
who sendest peace to those that receive it;

Open to us this day the sea of thy love
and water us with plenteous streams
from the riches of thy grace
and from the most sweet springs of thy kindness.

Make us children of quietness and heirs of peace,
enkindle in us the fire of thy love;
sow in us thy fear;
strengthen our weakness by thy power;
bind us closely to thee and to each other
in our firm and indissoluble bond of unity:

Syrian Clementine Liturgy (in: For all God’s people; p. 73)

The full text of Patriarch Sako’s prayer for peace follows:

Lord,
The plight of our country
is deep and the suffering of Christians
is severe and frightening.
Therefore, we ask you Lord
to spare our lives, and to grant us patience,
and courage to continue our witness of Christian values
with trust and hope.
Lord, peace is the foundation of life;
Grant us the peace and stability that will enable us
to live with each other without fear and anxiety,
and with dignity and joy.

Glory be to you forever.  Amen.

Litany for Iraq

For lasting peace in this ancient land – From you, O Lord.
For wisdom and compassion for all in authority – From you, O Lord.
For comfort for families separated or bereaved – From you, O Lord.
For the release of captives – From you, O Lord.
For safety and security for minority communities.
For refreshment for the weary and healing for the sick – From you, O Lord.
For continuing faithfulness of the ancient churches of this land – From you, O Lord.
For tenacity of spirit for small Christian groups – From you, O Lord.
For the mutual enrichment and support of those of different Christian traditions – From you, O Lord.

You, Lord of all, we confess;
You, Lord Jesus, we glorify;
For you are the life of our bodies
And you are the Saviour of our souls.

The response in the litany and this hymn both come from the Chaldean liturgy. The ancient hymn celebrates Christ the source of resurrection in all situations of death and deprivation. (in: With All God’s People, p. 21, 22)

From Anonymous:

Father God, Our Savior and King,

We come to You in despair over the evil being done to our Middle East Christian brothers and sisters. We ask that You would put Your hand of protection upon them and that You would sustain them as You did the Israelites in the desert. Lord, cause our brothers and sisters to cry out to You for help and show them the peace that only You can give in answer to their needs. In their darkest moments, Lord, keep them, strengthen them, and comfort them. When they despair that no one is coming to help them, Lord, reveal Your glory and restore their souls.

We ask you these things in the blessed name of Your precious son, Jesus Christ.

Amen.


5 posted on 08/12/2014 3:04:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer
“The plight of Christians, Yezidis and other religious and ethnic communities that are numeric minorities in Iraq demands a clear and courageous suicidal stance on the part of religious leaders, especially Muslims, those engaged in interfaith dialogue and everyone of goodwill,”

Fixed it

Any Muslim religious leader that spoke against these murderous bustards will likely have his throat cut and have a note pinned to his chest with a dagger that denounced him as an apostate.

6 posted on 08/12/2014 3:16:06 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: NYer

Dear Pope Francis: The goal of Islam is world domination. Their motto is “Kill all the Christians and Jews”. You knew that. History told you so. Wake Up!! Stop trying to be friends with everyone.


7 posted on 08/12/2014 3:16:38 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: NYer
a failure to do so would jeopardize the future of interreligious dialogue.

Nonsense. The only thing that would jeopardize the future of interreligious dialogue is if the terrorists starting saying the Catholic mass—in Latin.

8 posted on 08/12/2014 3:18:27 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: NYer

“No cause, no religion, can justify such barbarity”

Oh, yes it can.


9 posted on 08/12/2014 3:19:31 PM PDT by x1stcav (Leftism is like rust. It corrodes twenty-four hous a day.)
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To: NYer

Get back to me when the Pope calls for a crusade.


10 posted on 08/12/2014 3:21:41 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: NYer

Hee, Hee, Hee! It is the same as us expecting and waiting for the black community leaders (including Bam and MO) in this country to publicly speak up criticize and condemn the black gimedats Rioting and Looting in MO ... never going to happen.


11 posted on 08/12/2014 3:23:08 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: NYer

Obviously Pope Fairness doesn’t know the followers of Prophet Mad Mo well.


12 posted on 08/12/2014 3:23:37 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (His Arrogance would love to replace John Kerry-Heinz but all the trained monkeys turned him down.)
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To: NYer

One more time, for clarity.

Islam is not a “religion.” It is not a faith. It is an oppressive, misogynistic, tyrannical political system (called sharia) masquerading under the trappings of a religion.

By contrast, communism is a religion, a faith system (which changes its name from time to time, representing itself as socialism, progressivism, liberalism), which masquerades as an oppressive, misogynistic (has president Obeyme started paying his female white house staff the extra 25% they’re due?), tyrannical political system.

It’s why they get along so well.


13 posted on 08/12/2014 3:24:18 PM PDT by normbal (normbal. socialist occupied Maryland)
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To: NYer

Your Holiness, WAKE UP and SMELL THE COFFEE!


14 posted on 08/12/2014 3:27:13 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: NYer

Just posted this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3192085/posts


15 posted on 08/12/2014 3:28:34 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: NYer

The Vatican is filled with very literate people, so it’s a shame that they haven’t bothered to read the Koran and realize that ISIL is following the Koran to the letter. When Muslims are not in power, Taqiyya permits them to deceive and lie to non-Muslims about Islam and their true intentions. Then when Muslims gain power, they rule by the sword to force infidels to convert or die, or else to live as Dhimmis by obeying Islamic laws and paying the Jizya (a punitive tax that Muslims do not have to pay). Naivete can be fatal when dealing with Muslims.


16 posted on 08/12/2014 3:29:54 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: NYer

I have heard that Al Qaeda has denounced ISIS as to radical, but have no proof. Iran is actively backing them.


17 posted on 08/12/2014 3:34:19 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: NYer

Holy Father, the Muslim leaders are barbarians, will remain barbarians and have always been barbarians. They are servants of Satan.


18 posted on 08/12/2014 3:52:37 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: NYer

I hope so. The real problem today is Christians have no ability to respond as we have no “Christian States”. No Catholic, No Orthodox, No Protestant, No Nothing. How do we influence USA behavior with this President? Truth is Satan has been working overtime in the last 250 years and the fruits of that labor are evident. Bread and Circus, happy times have obscured the truth.


19 posted on 08/12/2014 3:56:14 PM PDT by Shark24
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To: NYer

The bearded subhuman savages really don’t care. They love killing.
Creatures that are lower than dung beetles that eat dung from sick camels are not going to listen to a man of God, such as the Pope.


20 posted on 08/12/2014 3:56:20 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: NYer; Salvation; Iscool; metmom; GeronL; Alex Murphy; boatbums; Arthur McGowan; SeekAndFind; dsc; ..

Waiting for the prot condemnation that will never come.


21 posted on 08/12/2014 4:02:04 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: NYer

Oh, but they can and do justify that and the worst of sinful behavior all the time. It’s probably more profitable to discuss whether they may or should.


22 posted on 08/12/2014 4:03:17 PM PDT by RichInOC (...somebody was going to say it. Why not me?)
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To: NYer
The Vatican called on Muslim leaders to condemn the “barbarity” and “unspeakable criminal acts” of Islamic State militants in Iraq, saying a failure to do so would jeopardize the future of interreligious dialogue.

LMAO.

23 posted on 08/12/2014 4:48:18 PM PDT by piusv
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To: verga

Why are you stirring the pot?


24 posted on 08/12/2014 4:49:38 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: piusv
What credibility can the interreligious dialogue that we have patiently pursued over recent years have?

Oh no. This is even better. LMAOROFL.

Perhaps God is allowing this because the so-called leaders of His Church have failed to teach the truth about Islam. The so-called leaders have turned their backs on true Catholic doctrine which boldly states that Islam is a false and diabolical religion, not one that worships the same God as the one and only True Religion.

25 posted on 08/12/2014 4:52:26 PM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv
The Vatican called on Muslim leaders to condemn the “barbarity” and “unspeakable criminal acts” of Islamic State militants in Iraq, <\b>saying a failure to do so would jeopardize the future of interreligious dialogue

Note that the Vatican called on someone else to condemn the acts. They did not openly and unilaterally condemn the acts themselves. I would have preferred the sentence to read "The Vatican condemned the “barbarity” and “unspeakable criminal acts” of Islamic State militants in Iraq"...end of sentence.

LMAO

Indeed.

26 posted on 08/12/2014 5:04:29 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Salvation; NYer; vladimir998; piusv
May God protect the Vatican and all Catholics.

Why has a Pope, who publicly prayed:

May St. John the Baptist protect Islam...,

been recently canonized as a saint? Wouldn't the devil's advocate have caught that?

Oh, I forgot! It was that same Pope who eliminated the position of devil's advocate, in order to speed up production in his "saint" factory.

27 posted on 08/12/2014 5:11:17 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: NYer

He’s been tweeting!


28 posted on 08/12/2014 6:21:58 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Alex Murphy

The condemnation by the Vatican is clearly in the premise of the request to Muslim leaders.


29 posted on 08/12/2014 7:05:08 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: ebb tide

The thing is even if the Devil’s Advocate might have caught that, canonizations are infallible when declared by a true pope. The process of canonization has changed throughout the history of the Church, so we can not point to a step in the process as a reason for a specific canonization’s fallibility.


30 posted on 08/13/2014 4:01:58 AM PDT by piusv
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To: Alex Murphy
Note that the Vatican called on someone else to condemn the acts. They did not openly and unilaterally condemn the acts themselves. I would have preferred the sentence to read "The Vatican condemned the “barbarity” and “unspeakable criminal acts” of Islamic State militants in Iraq"...end of sentence.

But that might hurt the Vatican II Church's false ecumenical efforts! We can't hurt anyone's precious feeeeeelings.

31 posted on 08/13/2014 4:04:22 AM PDT by piusv
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To: metmom
Why are you stirring the pot pointing out the incredibly obvious?

Fixed it for you.

BTW please remember your reaction when you jump on the priest pedophile/ teacher abuser bandwagon.

32 posted on 08/13/2014 5:39:25 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: Hugin

Hugin:

I have stated before, Pope Francis is kind of a Jesuit Dreamer, and sometimes I think a bit naïve, and he shoots off the cuff to much, as opposed to the measured and thoughtful Pope Benedict. As for calling a Crusade, the Popes do not have that role any longer nor should they. In the context of the 11th century, when the First Crusade was called, the idea of the Nation State or Emperor who had secular authority over Europe [i.e. the ROman Empire] was not present. Thus, the Pope could, in response to a request from the Byzantine Emperor, call for a Military response [Crusade] to stop the Muslim conquest of Constantinople [which we all know eventually happened in the 15th century]. Given that Western Christianity was united in a common Creed and Faith [we are still over 500 years from Luther, Calvin, Henry VIII, etc], the Pope’s request to the Kings of Europe was seen as a legitimate call to fight a just war against the Muslim advance.

In the 21st century, it is the responsibility of Political leaders to make the call to fight a war, not the Popes. The Pope can and should make a moral case for why fighting ISIS meets Just War Catholic Doctrine, but he is not the one to call for a war.


33 posted on 08/13/2014 6:24:24 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: verga; boatbums; metmom; Gamecock
Waiting for the prot condemnation that will never come.

Waiting for never is sort of like being stuck in limbo - neither one exists. You were saying?

Russell Moore, president of the SBC Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, added his name to a statement posted by George on a website called IraqRescue.org denouncing the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria — ISIS for short — for “conducting a campaign of genocide against Christians, Yazidis and others in Iraq.”
-- from the thread SBC Leader Joins Call for Military Action in Iraq

34 posted on 08/13/2014 7:29:01 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy
So once again the Catholic Church leads the way.

And do you really think it means anything when one part of a group that claims autonomy for all of its members makes a statement like this.

In reality it means les than nothing since they have no central authority, no iron clad moral compass.

You do recall that some of their churches do allow gay marriage and women's ordination.

35 posted on 08/13/2014 7:50:43 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: verga; metmom; boatbums; Gamecock
....do you really think it means anything when one part of a group that claims autonomy for all of its members makes a statement like this. In reality it means les than nothing since they have no central authority, no iron clad moral compass.

What's the view like in limbo?

36 posted on 08/13/2014 7:53:58 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: verga
It sure does lead the way.

In bowing to islam.

YOUR pope kissing the koran. Fits right in with YOUR Catechism of the Catholic church.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330


37 posted on 08/13/2014 8:46:14 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

First prots whine about the crusades when we saved Christianities collective hind ends and now you whine about this. Is it possible for a prot to hold a consistent position or do you all have to be Romneybots? What was that hypocritical comment about stirring the pot?


38 posted on 08/13/2014 8:50:11 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: verga; Alex Murphy
In reality it means les[sic] than nothing since they have no central authority, no iron clad moral compass.

True Christians have the Holy Spirit within them and have the word of God for moral direction.

It means that individuals can think for themselves and condemn it themselves instead of going brain dead and having some *central authority* do the thinking for them.

Like the Roman Catholic church is some kind of *iron clad moral compass*?????

With ITS history?!?!?!?!?!

FOTFLOL!!!!!

39 posted on 08/13/2014 8:52:19 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

Where is the statement form you cult condemning the muslim activities?


40 posted on 08/13/2014 8:52:26 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: metmom
Where is the statement form you cult condemning the muslim activities?

Waiting, and still waiting.

42 posted on 08/13/2014 9:47:00 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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