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LGBT culture clash primed by western activists
Communities Digital News' The Washington Outsider ^ | August 24, 2014 | Matthew Geiger

Posted on 08/25/2014 6:04:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Although LGBT behavior and lifestyles are gaining acceptance in the West, the same cannot be said about many corners of the world. Where the more “liberal” West is defined by its focus on individual rights, the Middle East, Africa, and East are defined more by their focus on cultural rights, thus the individual right to express sexual identity is less significant in these regions than the cultural right to maintain traditional values.

Because sexual identify plays a significant role in cultural identity, even tolerating LGBT behavior is asking for a considerable shift in cultural values and practices. Instead of inspiring change, efforts on behalf of LGBT activities to force a cultural shift are more likely to set in motion a social conflict.

Such a conflict made its way into the headlines around 2011 due to the criminalization of homosexuality and increasing anti-gay violence in several African countries, prompting Hillary Clinton to declare “gay rights are human rights and human rights are gay rights,” which likely did more to undermine US influence over the Peoples of this region than to protect gays as anti-gay movements have remained steadfast.

When it comes to African cultures, which view homosexuality as unacceptable and fiercely reject outside influences redefining their cultures thanks to their history with colonialism, the best case scenario is to prevent the state-sponsored persecution of suspected homosexuals, especially given the reality that there are plenty of places in Africa where weak governments cannot even protect women and young girls from being raped when they fetch water for their families.

Unfortunately, American LGBT activists, who have political leverage over the Democrats and the Obama Administration, are provoking a culture war overseas. This will only endanger the lives of LGBT individuals, who just want to live in peace, and those who are accused of being LGBT while undermining America’s influence around the world in favor of, for example, Russian influence. In other words, Russia appears to respect the cultures of others more than the US does. As such, President Obama must be careful in how he protests anti-gay policies in order to demonstrate the US actually respects the rights of other cultures and those who dissent from his stance on LGBT issues.

In discussing controversial issues, credibility and trust are necessary, thus LGBT activities need to avoid taking hypocritical stances. Unfortunately, the United States fosters a very dishonest culture when it comes to expressing views on sexuality. Americans are so averse to even the use of the word “sex” that we too often say, “sleeping together” or “in bed” while we call any sort of lustful sexual act “love making.” Furthermore, every time a prominent Christian leader, celebrity, or political commentator rejects gay marriage and/or disapproves of homosexual activities, the media reports it as controversial. It is not, because their views are part of their belief system.

Christianity defines homosexual behavior as immoral; therefore, Christians can never accept LBGT lifestyles as appropriate, unless they are untrue to their Faith. In which case, some conflict of Faith, a.k.a. an identity crises, will eventual arise and there will either be backlash against the LGBT community or a rejection of one’s Christianity. Christianity does not technically accept sexual behavior outside of marriage or any kind of lustful behavior, yet it is tolerated by modern Christians in order to avoid conflict, foster cohesion, and open the religion to an attitude of forgiveness, among other things. The acceptance of homosexual behavior, however, is a different story as the Christian remedy would be to no longer engage in homosexual behavior, not acceptance.

It is, therefore, important to recognize American LGBT supporters can easily be seen as hypocritical when bashing those who simply disagree with their views. Hate speech, violence, and other attacks on LGBT individuals will always be unacceptable behaviors under American values. Yet those who find LGBT behavior and lifestyles to be inappropriate for religious and nonreligious reasons also have a right to their beliefs. As such, Christians, at best, can accept a “hate the sin; love the sinner” approach when it comes LGBT behavior and lifestyles.

Furthermore, the unfortunate reality is that the Christian community and the LGBT community can never be fully integrated without a catastrophic social conflict, though their interests can be balanced. Looking at gay marriage as an example of gay issues, there is an argument to be made that government should only recognize civil unions for gays and straights alike. Because marriage has a religious and legal component, the only balanced approach that respects Equal Protection under the Fourteen Amendment and the religious protections afforded under the First Amendment is for government to stop legally recognizing/regulating the religious practice of marriage and start recognizing the legal status of civil unions for both heterosexual and homosexual couples.

Instead of balancing these interests, however, a growing conflict between supporters of the LGBT community and proponents of traditional lifestyles has been allowed to fester. In other words, the US is headed away from victimizing LGBT individuals to suppressing those who view LGBT lifestyles as inappropriate in such a way that we are certain to cause a massive, avoidable social conflict. This is particularly problematic when it comes to America’s global influence as a large portion of the world’s population favors more socially conservative views when it comes to sexual behavior.

A global conflict over differing attitudes on sex is certain, especially given how those with incompatible views are so unwilling to balance their competing interests. Both sides tend to be “ignorant” and “intolerant” even when it comes to understanding the other side’s perspective. As such, everyone should be able to recognize that homosexual attraction and innate transgender traits are rooted in biology and/or early childhood development, thus these individuals cannot be damned for their impulses to engage in these behaviors. It also important to recognize tolerance is a two-way street for supporters of the LGBT community.

Where Westerners are more inclined to accept homosexuality and reject polygamy, even though these cultures embrace serial polygamy, which Americans dishonestly call serial monogamy, many parts of the world are more inclined to accept polygamy and reject homosexuality. A large part of this has to do with modern Christianity and Western feminism. Western intolerance of polygamy demonstrates how supporters of the LGBT community can be very hypocritical in the eyes of those who view homosexuality as improper while creating unnecessary social conflicts that will eventually result in backlashes to the LGBT community and LGBT individuals around the world. Moreover, LGBT supporters and supporters of more traditional lifestyles must approach how they express their beliefs in a more balanced approach in order to avoid a catastrophic culture clash.


TOPICS: Islam; Orthodox Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: hillary; homosexualagenda; islam; obama; polygamy

1 posted on 08/25/2014 6:04:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Although LGBT behavior and lifestyles are gaining acceptance in the West, the same cannot be said about many corners of the world.

Certainly not in my world.

2 posted on 08/25/2014 6:21:06 PM PDT by Mark17 (Obama & Nero? Both Emperors. The difference is Nero played a fiddle, while Obama plays a "flute")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Christianity defines homosexual behavior as immoral; therefore, Christians can never accept LBGT lifestyles as appropriate, unless they are untrue to their Faith. In which case, some conflict of Faith, a.k.a. an identity crises, will eventual arise and there will either be backlash against the LGBT community or a rejection of one’s Christianity.”

In that one sentence, the author brilliantly outlines why it is imperative that we not only stop the LGBT Rights Movement, but roll back laws and judicial decisions over the last 50 years that have not only legalized homosexual behavior and advocacy, but have legitimized it our country.

With the legalization of sodomy and now the judicial mandates that force gay marriage upon our people, our nation and our people are being forced away from Christianity and into a secular dictatorship.

Gay Marriage will destroy our nation and we must face this crisis as if it were any other threatening force.


3 posted on 08/25/2014 6:25:23 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Mark17

not in my world are they either, nor my families.

Actually most I know feel the same way as you and I .

You are born a male you are a male, and if they do not believe in God then they certainly believe in evolution. So how does two of the same sex which nature intended ? They can’t .
Kids do better with a mother and a father. Time after time it has been shown , infact when divorces started to go up back way back we were seeing kids with a mother and a father in the home was better for them.


4 posted on 08/25/2014 6:32:57 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Oliviaforever

The only way to stop this madness is for many to stand up and speak out to their friends, family, at work etc.
From what I have seen then it will not happen , but others come up later and say in private they agree with me.{sigh}


5 posted on 08/25/2014 6:34:09 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Oliviaforever

To be practical, that is never going to happen in the United States as it stands. Not feasible. To do that, you need one of two things to happen.

1) A SCOTUS with a majority of judges being reactionary (being conservative will not be enough to favor returning to sodomy laws)

or 2) A Constitutional Amendment that would require a supermajority of reactionaries in congress, or a large majority of state governments being reactionary and using a state convention.

Neither of these two things is in any way feasible. What is feasible is that when this nation descends into a Rome-esque anarchy (and it will, within 30 years), a city or region is seized by reactionary forces who can write this law as they please.

It might be annoying, but this is reality. Within the political system, we have no chance of rolling back the homo agenda. It must collapse and die with the leviathan that brought it in.


6 posted on 08/25/2014 6:43:47 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Where the more “liberal” West is defined by its focus on individual rights,

Individual rights for certain lasses.

7 posted on 08/25/2014 7:11:12 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The only reason homosexuality is gaining acceptance in our nation is we who don't accept it aren't doing squat to stop it. Beating my drum once again, what is needed is conservative/patriotic pop culture, because that's been the chief influence on three generations of Americans now.

We're not going to deprogram those who accept homosexuality as normal with Pat Boone and the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. We're not going to do it with Rush Limbaugh and the Heritage Foundation. Why? Young people don't listen to them...they have no influence. Rock, metal, rap, pop, movies, video games, professional sports, reality TV...those are the keys to getting our culture back.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

8 posted on 08/25/2014 7:15:52 PM PDT by wku man ("Weenie in a Hybrid" by 10 Pound Test - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWdLDSB_6gY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Folks in the rest of the world have to work long and hard to feed their families. They have neither the time, nor inclination, to obsess about their genitalia, and sexual satisfaction.


9 posted on 08/25/2014 8:45:48 PM PDT by SuziQ
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