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Cardinal Burke Rebuts 'Outrageous' Claim that Cardinal Kasper Speaks for Pope
Catholic Culture ^ | 9/30/24

Posted on 10/01/2014 9:13:56 AM PDT by marshmallow

Cardinal Raymond Burke strongly defended his criticism of the “Kasper proposal,” and said it was “outrageous” for Cardinal Walter Kasper to suggest that such criticism was actually aimed at Pope Francis, during a teleconference with reporters on September 30.

“I find it amazing that the cardinal [Kasper] claims that he speaks for the Pope,” Cardinal Burke said. “The Pope doesn’t have laryngitis.”

Cardinal Burke joined several other participants in a teleconference on preparations for the Synod of Bishops. The teleconference was arranged by Ignatius Press, which will release four books on October 1 presenting arguments against the Kasper proposal and in defense of Church teaching on marriage.

Cardinal Burke said that he finds the books—and particularly Remaining in the Truth of Christ, to which he contributed—an “effective response” to Cardinal Kasper’s proposal that the Church might allow divorced and remarried Catholics to receive the Eucharist. These works, the American cardinal said, reflect the “firm conviction of the authors and the firm conviction of the Church” that the Catholic understanding of the indissolubility of marriage is based on the clear words of Jesus Christ and cannot be altered. Saying that Cardinal Kasper “erred” in his proposal, Cardinal Burke said that the new works were “a positive contribution to get the discussion back on the right track.”

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Theology
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Burke vs Kasper.

One, exiled to Malta, the other, the teacher of "serene theology".

1 posted on 10/01/2014 9:13:56 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Go Cardinal Burke! Prayers up!


2 posted on 10/01/2014 9:15:59 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: marshmallow

If the Bishops can’t destroy the Church, no one can.


3 posted on 10/01/2014 9:19:26 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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Cardinal Raymond Burke strongly defended his criticism of the “Kasper proposal,” and said it was “outrageous” for Cardinal Walter Kasper to suggest that such criticism was actually aimed at Pope Francis, during a teleconference with reporters on September 30. “I find it amazing that the cardinal [Kasper] claims that he speaks for the Pope,” Cardinal Burke said. “The Pope doesn’t have laryngitis.”

And now that he's been exiled, false collegiality is dropped - which IMO is what Kasper had identified as the issue the papacy had Burke in the first place:

....Regarding the upcoming publication of the five cardinals' book right before the synod: "Yes it is a problem. I don't remember a similar situation, in which in such organized manner five cardinals would write such a book. That's the way politicians operate, but in the Church we should not behave like that.”
-- from the thread Interview excerpts: Cardinal Kasper responds

4 posted on 10/01/2014 9:21:09 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

What exactly was the issue? Kasper has been setting himself out as the Pope’s spokesman since the beginning, and the five cardinals wrote their book IN RESPONSE to Kasper, and did not get together in advance and plan this “attack.”

One thing you have to bear in mind is that the Pope isn’t really a regular Latin American: he’s an Argentinian, a group where many of them actually boast of having no Spanish blood, because they are descended from the Italians, English and Germans who populated that area. They probably identify as Italians more than anything else, and they are very much in awe of the Germans (Italians always are). Even though he’s too old to vote and is theoretically retired, Kasper is very aggressive and he’s using the Pope’s anti-intellectual, populist and Argentinian strain to his best advantage.


5 posted on 10/01/2014 9:31:05 AM PDT by livius
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To: marshmallow

“...that the Catholic understanding of the indissolubility of marriage is based on the clear words of Jesus Christ...”

This isn’t the only angle to take on the discussion.

Why not phrase the question from the angle of “Is the Blessed Sacrament” truly the sacred presence of Jesus Christ and (if so) as such does He demand holiness (being free of mortal sin) as a prerequisite to receive Him worthily (in the sacrament)?


6 posted on 10/01/2014 9:34:07 AM PDT by Repent and Believe (Promote good. Tolerate the harmless. Let evil be crushed.)
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To: livius
What exactly was the issue? Kasper has been setting himself out as the Pope’s spokesman since the beginning, and the five cardinals wrote their book IN RESPONSE to Kasper

This reminded me of a thread from a few years back, which should have served as a warning to Burke given the current situation:

In the Church, only the Pope can level accusations against cardinals. This was the clarification made today by the Vatican at the conclusion of an audience between Benedict XVI and Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, the archbishop of Vienna, Austria. The meeting took place between the two to discuss statements made by the cardinal regarding the investigation of his predecessor, Cardinal Hans Hermann Groër, who resigned in 1995 amidst allegations of sexual abuse. Cardinal Schonbörn made comments to journalists April 28 that were interpreted by the media as an accusation against Cardinal Angelo Sodano's treatment of the investigation. It was understood from his statements that he believed that the then secretary of state, under Pope John Paul II, had blocked the inquiry for "diplomatic reasons."
-- from the thread Pope Clarifies That Only He Can Criticize a Cardinal

7 posted on 10/01/2014 9:39:40 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

“And now that he’s been exiled, false collegiality is dropped”

What false collegiality? Burke has always been this way.


8 posted on 10/01/2014 9:40:25 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: marshmallow

Is Cardinal Kasper a ‘60s holdover? I wonder where he stands on Humanae Vitae


9 posted on 10/01/2014 9:47:53 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Alex Murphy

I don’t think they were really criticizing a cardinal, but simply stating the traditional Catholic positions. Now Kasper, on the other hand...


10 posted on 10/01/2014 9:55:44 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius
I don’t think they were really criticizing a cardinal, but simply stating the traditional Catholic positions.

Maybe the five cardinals intended it as an academic exercise/exploration of divorce and remarriage at the communion table, but once their publisher got ahold of it - hoo boy! - it got repackaged as criticism. This comes from the official description of the book, found at the Amazon listing for the title:

In this volume five Cardinals of the Church, and four other scholars, respond to the call issued by Cardinal Walter Kasper for the Church to harmonize "fidelity and mercy in its pastoral practice with civilly remarried, divorced people".

Beginning with a concise introduction, the first part of the book is dedicated to the primary biblical texts pertaining to divorce and remarriage, and the second part is an examination of the teaching and practice prevalent in the early Church. In neither of these cases, biblical or patristic, do these scholars find support for the kind of "toleration" of civil marriages following divorce advocated by Cardinal Kasper.


11 posted on 10/01/2014 10:39:50 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Repent and Believe

Not a bad idea. Not at all.


12 posted on 10/01/2014 10:45:31 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: marshmallow

So when did Burke get “exiled to Malta”. Last time I checked he was still the current Cardinal Prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura.

http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2014/09/30/cardinal-burke-no-change-in-divorce-annulments/


13 posted on 10/01/2014 11:10:58 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
So when did Burke get “exiled to Malta”. Last time I checked he was still the current Cardinal Prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura.

Where have you been?

Exile to Malta for Cardinal Burke
The possible demotion of Card. Burke. Wherein Fr. Z rants.
Breaking: Sources confirm Cardinal Burke will be removed. But will he attend the Synod?
Exile to Malta for Cardinal Burke

14 posted on 10/01/2014 11:20:16 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

When you read confirmation from the Vatican come back and tell us all. Nothing yet.


15 posted on 10/01/2014 4:51:48 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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