Posted on 10/23/2014 1:37:07 PM PDT by Gamecock
Might be an interesting argument if death row inmates didn't typically outlive many of their jurors. But seriously? What capital murderer has ever had fewer than three years [minimum] to repent of his crimes?
My brother lived in Mexico for a couple of years. The word down there is that “officially” there is no life imprisonment nor death penalty. But there are a lot of unsuccessful prison escapees who die from lead poisoning.
I wish Pope Francis would stick to preaching Catholic Doctrine.
A good iteration of which is in the Catholic Catechism, which puts equal emphasis on the DUTY of the state authorities to protect society from unjust aggressors,and to use the death penalty when necessary, and otherwise,m when possible, to isolate aggressors from society via life imprisonment.
I read somewhere --- and I can't find the source, google though I may, so somebody help me if you can find the source --- I read somewhere on the internet that 500 people are murdered every year --- by perpetrators who have already been convicted on at least one previous homicide -- in California alone
So much for a state that does not have, IN PRACTICE, life imprisonment without parole.
Many homiciders live in confidence that they will NEVER get a genuine life sentence because of
The system is criminal in itself.
This is the mindset which results in not reporting pedophile priests to the police.
The Bible doesn't give time limits. As I said, I understand the reasoning, but I don't agree with a total condemnation of executions. From a Christian standpoint, anything involving killing people has to be taken very seriously, because eternal souls are involved.
Okay, you've got a murderer ... he killed X people. Those people can't be brought back; they're either saved or not, based on what they believed and did before their death. However, the killer is still "pending." Is it merciful to keep him "pending"? Maybe it is; maybe he'll repent. On the other hand, maybe he will continue to harm others.
Well then you have a short memory. The death penalty is not intrinsically evil according to Catholic teaching. Pope Francis’ pronouncements can’t change that.
Liberals feel all morally superior for showing “mercy” to criminals but they totally ignore the thousands of victims they create when the let the violent criminals out of prison. As we fought against this, we learned that most violent criminals re-offend when let out of prison no matter how much was spent on rehab programs.
We reformed liberalism in the courts with mandatory sentencing, which is not perfect, but better that it was when they had total control and killed us without a care.
The Church has always been against murder, remember it is one of God's top ten things we can not do, and whether it is done by the state or an individual it can not be condoned. As for imprisonment there is no Godly sanction against it and the Pope is wrong in my opinion to limit it in any way.
This man is an ass.
And in other news life of murderer more sacred than those they murder - sometimes in the most heinous ways ....
It costs around $50,000 a year to imprison someone in California.
It’s questionable whether a human life can be balanced against money. But many of the states are going broke, and one reason is all those lifers who have to be given their prison privileges, such as sex-change operations and big-screen TV.
And the solution is not what California and other states have done, to let dangerous criminals out on the streets before their time is up, when they are certain to rob, mug, steal, or kill again.
The Catholic Church has opposed the death penalty for some time, but it is a prudential decision, not an absolute law.
You do realize that the article is from Catholic News Service, right?
So?
I’m against the death penalty, but I am for life imprisonment without parole as an acceptable alternative. There are some who will always be dangerous to society.
See post #55
No, once people are dead, they’re dead. They are no longer “pending” in terms of their eternal destiny.
On the other hand, the future actions of a killer are indeterminate until they happen, and preventing further evil is a major reason for executions.
Are you trying to tell me that you think the Catholic news media got it wrong too?
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