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For Advent: Wedding at Cana, Garden in Eden
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Posted on 12/22/2014 7:34:14 PM PST by Salvation

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To: WVKayaker
While the article seems to attempt to make Mary the focus of this Scripture, that is a typical use of the passage in the allegorical construction to bolster the doctrine of Mariolatry, making the chaste maiden a kind of anti-Eve, a replacement for Diana or Athena in the Gentile culture.

In contrast, I believe this winsome maiden was of remarkable character, in her willingness to obey The Most Holy God, whether under The Law in the age of Law, or under Grace in the age of Grace.

But she, like John the Baptizer, seems willing to take her place in the panorama (not a Pantheon) of a supporting cast that the Holy Ghost uses to draw one's attention to The Jesus, in Whom we trust to raise us to Heaven, with Him Alone as our High Priest, Rebbe, Lord, Messiah, Savior, Intercessor--and mostly important--our compassionate Friend.

That is the greatest sign of the true regenerate believer-disciple, that Abraham and Paul and Baptizer John and you and I become lesser, and He greater, eh?

I believe that would have been Mary's approach as well, and worthy of recognition as one of her spiritual attributes.

"Have Thine own way, Lord, have Thine Own way;
Thou art the Potter, I am the clay.
Mold me and make me, after Thy Will
While I am waiting, yielded and still."

That is the proper metaphor for this winsome woman, bowing in homage to the Mighty God in Christ, the Hope of Glory.

Let Mary's name and repute be so remembered.

41 posted on 12/23/2014 11:15:27 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Mark17
. . . you should be drinking the best wine first. . .

The best wine is the new wine, a metaphor for the blessing of the inward presence The Holy Spirit (Acts 2:13, found in the cluster (Is. 65:8), and partaken of as at Cana and (presumably) at the Marriage Feat of The Anointed One and His Bride.

42 posted on 12/23/2014 11:32:17 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: defconw

“The Venerable Bishop Sheen, said that Jesus called her woman because He wanted her to recognize that once He performed His first miracle, she would become the mother of all not just to Him. “

Appeal to Authority - logical fallacy.

Mary is not the mother of all anywhere in Scripture. Made up out of whole cloth. Probably moth-eaten cloth.


43 posted on 12/23/2014 12:44:39 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: imardmd1
That is the proper metaphor for this winsome woman, bowing in homage to the Mighty God in Christ, the Hope of Glory.

Let Mary's name and repute be so remembered.

Roger that. Mary was definitely blessed among women, but a servant of God, just like we are. On another issue, this is the first time I have EVER heard of Mary being referred to as the new Eve. Have you ever heard this before? I feel like one of those Athenians in Acts 17, just spending my time hearing some new thing. 😄

44 posted on 12/23/2014 1:11:11 PM PST by Mark17 (So gracious and tender was He. I claimed Him that day as my savior, this stranger of Galilee)
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To: Mark17
. . . this is the first time I have EVER heard of Mary being referred to as the new Eve.

She's not. What I think they wanted her is to be a chief goddess replacement for Diana (remember "Great is the Diana of Ephesus!" of Acts 10:24-35), or Athena, or Astsrte so the Gentiles have an excuse for their old social activities, now putting their emphasis on drawing gentiles away by giving them a substitute, if you know what I mean. That's the basis for a lot of this formation of a pantheon of heroes and calling them "Saints" each with a feast for every one.

This is how all the barbaric activities got folded into the Roman manifestation, and still seems to drive it.

45 posted on 12/23/2014 2:48:50 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
(remember "Great is the Diana of Ephesus!" of Acts 10:24-35), or Athena, or Astsrte

Is that the queen of heaven and her son Tammuz, from where the sign of the T comes from, whose symbol is the evergreen tree? (Christmas tree)

46 posted on 12/23/2014 2:57:11 PM PST by Mark17 (So gracious and tender was He. I claimed Him that day as my savior, this stranger of Galilee)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Stick your opinion!


47 posted on 12/23/2014 3:15:44 PM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: imardmd1
"this is the first time I have EVER heard of Mary being referred to as the new Eve".

Well you're not very well read then.

48 posted on 12/23/2014 3:17:20 PM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: defconw
Blessed Mother Thank You for directing your Most Holy Son our Lord to my plight this morning.

Mary can't hear you...

In Jesus Name, we pray, Amen!

In Jesus' name you pray to Mary...So you are going thru Jesus to get to Mary...How blasphemous...

49 posted on 12/23/2014 3:47:29 PM PST by Iscool
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To: CynicalBear

Mary had to nudge God to get off his hind end and do something...


50 posted on 12/23/2014 3:49:32 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool

Bite Me! Mary my Mother protect me from the unbelievers!


51 posted on 12/23/2014 3:51:02 PM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: defconw

What? Your Jesus is not sufficiently strong, or does not care enough?


52 posted on 12/23/2014 3:59:02 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Iscool

When it’s someone other than Mary, we read the obvious... the Lord orchestrated things in order to get the request in order that He could meet it on the record.

But when it’s Mary, Jesus has to be prodded...

Oh come on.


53 posted on 12/23/2014 4:00:59 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: defconw
Bite Me! Mary my Mother protect me from the unbelievers!

Tsk! Tsk! Tsk! A little touchy, are we???

Those who do not believe in your Mary as the New Eve or the Queen of Heaven are those who believe in Jesus Christ alone...Your Mary has no power over us...

54 posted on 12/23/2014 4:02:03 PM PST by Iscool
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To: HiTech RedNeck
But when it’s Mary, Jesus has to be prodded...

The bible obviously is meaningless to these people and their religion...

55 posted on 12/23/2014 4:03:43 PM PST by Iscool
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If you only knew.


56 posted on 12/23/2014 4:04:01 PM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Iscool

It’s kind of funny I found myself in this discussion.

Way back, before I believed in Christ, I was raised Jewish. I asked the rabbi once, why do we call God “He” and not “She”? Hebrew is a gendered language and the third party pronouns are gendered, corresponding to our English He and She.

The rabbi was not Christian, but he told me something I still remember. He told me that many of God’s attributes are stated in the feminine gender in the scriptures.

Jesus, being God, doesn’t need a woman poking at Him to remember the special kind of compassion with which He was to imbue womankind! The human Adam might need that kind of help. God, the divine Adam, doesn’t.

No wonder David spoke of Jonathan’s love as “more wonderful than that of women.” No, David and Jonathan were not “gay.” This love was a special one from God, and represented the love what required both genders for God to express in humankind, the love that was later to be expressed as agape in the New Testament.


57 posted on 12/23/2014 4:10:26 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: defconw

I can imagine what you believe, and do not believe it.


58 posted on 12/23/2014 4:10:54 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Iscool

She does care about Satan’s spawn!


59 posted on 12/23/2014 4:11:03 PM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: defconw

How about looking in a mirror if you want to be sure you do not have a Satan’s spawn problem?


60 posted on 12/23/2014 4:14:56 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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