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To: RnMomof7
“Hence, to those who work well unto the end and trust in God, eternal life is to be offered, both as a grace mercifully promised to the sons of God through Christ Jesus, and as a reward promised by God himself, to be faithfully given to their good works and merits.”

What a miserable way to muddle through life. If I believed that, even for a minute, I would be suicidal.

4 posted on 03/02/2015 11:24:55 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Infantry officer.)
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To: Gamecock; RnMomof7; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; daniel1212; HossB86; Iscool
>>What a miserable way to muddle through life. If I believed that, even for a minute, I would be suicidal.<<

The statement that you quoted is right from the council of Trent.

Council of Trent, On Justification, Ch. XVI
Therefore, to men justified in this manner, whether they have preserved uninterruptedly the grace received or recovered it when lost, are to be pointed out the words of the Apostle: "Abound in every good work, knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord. For God is not unjust, that he should forget your work, and the love which you have shown in his name"; and "Do not lose confidence, which hath a great reward." Hence, to those who work well "unto the end" and trust in God, eternal life is to be offered, both as a grace mercifully promised to the sons of God through Christ Jesus, and as a reward promised by God himself, to be faithfully given to their good works and merits.

For the Catholics it's both grace and works. And then eternal life is to be offered, not guaranteed, just offered. I would say "a miserable way to muddle through life" indeed. But alas, I do believe Catholics are obliged to believe it.

48 posted on 03/02/2015 3:04:30 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Gamecock; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; CynicalBear; daniel1212; HossB86; Iscool; ...
What a miserable way to muddle through life. If I believed that, even for a minute, I would be suicidal.

Most catholics assume that their loved ones went to "purgatory"then heaven and that they too are going there .Purgatory gives them a false hope .

See they have a very distorted view of the true Holiness and perfection of God.. they measure themselves, not against His righteousness, but the righteousness of other men... you know "Ohh I am not as bad as So&So.. I have not cheated on my wife or robbed a store"

What they have done can be "cleaned up " in purgatory so they will be clean enough to be in the presence of God... Ohhh so sad...Ohhh so blind..

Have they not read that ALL liars will go to hell?? Have they not read that if you break one law you are guilty of all??

I want to weep when I hear a RC say of a dead loved one "He is in a better place"

Ohhh no I want to scream..If he has not repented at the foot of the cross he is burning in eternal flames ...

They have a very false assurance that will lead them right into the flames of Hell

53 posted on 03/02/2015 3:26:17 PM PST by RnMomof7
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