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1 posted on 05/09/2015 6:07:59 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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Oh that would be Isis, I mean Astarte...OK darn it...I mean Mary Mother of God.

Gosh and Heck. OK Darn it...don't tell me the truth about syncretistic goddess worship. I love the Goddess and I don't care what you say about its pagan origins.

Jess kidding.

I will say 600 hail Astartes before I go to bed.

And there better be some eggs in the yard tomorrow.

2 posted on 05/09/2015 6:16:00 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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3 posted on 05/09/2015 6:42:10 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (And I will send fire on Magog- Ezkiel 39:6)
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Thanks for your post. http://www.patburt.com/


4 posted on 05/09/2015 7:02:38 PM PDT by Maudeen
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bttt


5 posted on 05/09/2015 7:08:06 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: pastorbillrandles; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; ...
. The Roman Catholic Church I was brought up in, featured a large statue of the virgin Mary standing upon a globe. She was crowned with 12 stars and under her feet was the serpent. The blasphemous teaching of this statue was clear, Mary defeated the Devil and set men free. This is none less than a distortion of the original Gospel as proclaimed in Genesis 3, And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.(Genesis 3:14-15)

While Pope Pius IX in Ineffabilis Deus (Latin for "Ineffable God") which defines the dogma of the Immaculate Conception (though the arguments for "infallible" decrees are not covered by the the novel and unScriptural premise of ensured perpetual magisterial infallibility) invokes a Vulgate translation [and thus the Douay Rheims] of Gn. 3:15 which changed the “he” to “she shall crush thy head,” and thus that “the most holy Virgin” “was, with him and through him, eternally at enmity with the evil serpent, and most completely triumphed over him, and thus crushed his head with her immaculate foot.” (http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius09/p9ineff.htm)

However, as the Catholic Encyclopedia (Immaculate Conception) states, The translation “she” of the Vulgate is interpretative; it originated after the fourth century, and cannot be defended critically. The conqueror from the seed of the woman, who should crush the serpent’s head, is Christ; the woman at enmity with the serpent is Mary. (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07674d.htm)

As with others, the official Roman Catholic Bible for America translates this,

I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; They will strike at your head, while you strike at their heel.”

The approved notes (1970 ver.), while also noting the Traditional Messianic exegesis, explains this saying, “They will strike…at their heel: the antecedent for “they” and “their” is the collective noun “offspring,” i.e., all the descendants of the woman.” (http://old.usccb.org/nab/bible/genesis/genesis3.htm)

RC apologist Jimmy Akin also states,
Q: Please explain to me how come the Douay-Rheims Gen 3:15 and the New American Bible Gen 3:15 differ. I’m sure you know what I am talking about.

...The reason for the difference in the renderings is a manuscript difference. Modern translations follow what the original Hebrew of the passage says. The Douay-Rheims, however, is following a manuscript variant found in many early Fathers and some editions of the Vulgate (but not the original; Jerome followed the Hebrew text in his edition of the Vulgate). The variant probably originated as a copyist error when a scribe failed to take note that the subject of the verse had shifted from the woman to the seed of the woman... just as the first half of the verse, speaking of the enmity between the serpent and the woman, has been applied to Mary, the second half, speaking of the head crushing and heel striking, has also been applied to Mary due to the manuscript variant, though it properly applies to Jesus, given the original Hebrew. (www.jimmyakin.com/mary-and-genesis-315)

The Anglican/Roman Catholic International Commission explains the controversy:

The Hebrew text of Genesis 3:15 speaks about enmity between the serpent and the woman, and between the offspring of both. The personal pronoun (hu’) in the words addressed to the serpent, “He will strike at your head”, is masculine. In the Greek translation used by the early Church (LXX), however, the personal pronoun autos (he) cannot refer to the offspring … but must refer to a masculine individual who could then be the Messiah, born of a woman. The Vulgate (mis)translates the clause as ipsa … This feminine pronoun supports a reading of this passage as referring to Mary which has become traditional in the Latin Church. (Source.)

The Neo-Vulgate (Nova Vulgata), the revised Latin version authorized by the Vatican, corrected the error and changed it from ipsa to ipsum in the Latin.

As a reformed source states, “He” .. in the original Hebrew is masculine. It is pronounced “hoo” and can also mean “it.” Many think it means “it” in reference to collective offspring of the woman crushing the head of the serpent. In the LXX, however, it is rendered autos “he,” indicating that the passage should be understood as a Messianic prophecy about Jesus Christ alone crushing the head. “He [Jesus] will crush the serpent’s head.” (http://reformedapologeticsministries.blogspot.com/2012/02/catholic-misuse-of-genesis-315.html)

More here.

The Hebrew Masoretic text reads that one who will crush the serpents head is in the masculine, speaking about Christ, and the NT does not mention Mary of doing this, but that “Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he [Christ] also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.” (Hebrews 2:14,15) Glory be to God.

Note also that women being said to have seed is not unique to Gn. 3:15, as Hagar and Rebekah are also said to have seed. (Gn. 16:10;24:60) Meanwhile the Hebrew words in this entire verse actually only says, “put/place enmity/hostility between woman between seed seed it/he bruise head thou shalt bruise heel.”

And nowhere does it say the women is uniquely different from the rest of mankind, as it only distinguishes between the seed of the devil and seed of Eve, which prophetically would be between the lost and Christ coming ultimately through Mary, or perhaps between demons and Christ. “Seed” is singular, but it can refer to a single line of decedents. And as Christ genealogy is full of souls who were lost at least at one time, the only exclusion of any seed that is not fallen is the sinless Christ. The seed of the women no more excludes her from being fallen then it does the parents of Mary.

Behind the Roman reasoning is the premise that a sinless vessel is essential for Christ to be sinless, but which is fallacious. 1 Sam.2:2 and Rev.15:4 states that there is "no one holy as the Lord" and "Thou only art Holy." Yet God used impure men to bring forth His pure expressive word to men, and if God could preserve Mary from sin then it is certain He could preserve Christ from being contaminated from the impurity of the vessel through which His body was supplied. For Hebrews 10:5 states that “Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me.”

And it is also argued, that "The human male determines the sex of the offspring. His entrance into the unfertilized egg of Mary caused it to develop without the expected duplication of the female X chromosomes. When an artificial egg duplicates its chromosomes in response to artificial stimulation. the result is female" D. Hocking from his Christology course (animal studies). And thus “The blood type of the Son of God was a separate and precious type unlike any other, it had no sin. Because of this method of conception, it is not possible that Mary could have supplied any of her Adamic blood for Jesus who was to be the spotless lamb of God.” “The Holy Spirit who is God, protected His sinlessness, as God the Son entered the womb and the egg of Mary and took upon Himself a human nature in addition to His divine nature (clothed himself in humanity Phil. 2:5-8). There was no change of nature but an addition, adding humanity to His deity.” (http://www.letusreason.org/rc11.htm)

I am not sure if I agree that the sin nature is dependent on the male seed, but if God can produce a male from a female virgin then He can certainly bring forth a perfect sinless male from a fallen vessel tainted by sin.

6 posted on 05/10/2015 5:17:28 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: pastorbillrandles
Who is the mysterious woman, writhing in agony of birth, seen in the vision of the apostle John in Revelation 12?

Her name is מִרְיָם which you know as Miriam or Mary.
She is the virgin of Israel who bore the man child whose name is called עִמָּ֫נוּאֵ֫ל which means "God with us."

9 posted on 05/10/2015 9:11:17 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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Sound teaching, Pastor. And the Bride snatched away in the Rapture is the Body of Christ in the same way the bride of any bridegroom is one with the bridegroom ... and I refer to ‘what God has joined together’, not a sexual union.


10 posted on 05/10/2015 9:17:32 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: pastorbillrandles; delchiante; Iscool
The woman clothed with the sun. Virgo

Two witnesses, every matter must be established by at least two witnesses.

John 8:17 In your own תוֹרַתְ (Law) it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true. 18 I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.”
2 Corinthians 13:1 This will be my third visit to you. “Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.”

And Revelation starts off with statements regarding things that will shortly take place.

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Yeshua HaMashiach, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John, 2 who bore witness to the word of God, and to the testimony of Yeshua HaMashiach, to all things that he saw.

things which must shortly take place

Revelation 4:4 After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying, “Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this.”

“Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this.”

Notice: things which must shortly take place, and “Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this.”

Yohannan was on the isle of Patmos, that is your time stamp. Ergo Revelation 12 was in the future so lets look at it from this perspective.

1 And a great sign was seen in heaven: a woman arrayed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars;

A Great Sign! The woman is Virgo, Betulah in Hebrew and the sun is in that constellation.
Note: 12 men have had the moon under their feet, all of them Americans.

Now on to the moon. Signs in the heavens!

Genesis 1:14 And ELoHIM said, Let there be lights in the firmament of heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years:

מוֹעֲדִים Moeds, set times, Feasts of The L-RD.

Here's an example of signs connecting Feast Days. On the night of the crucifixion (Passover) the full moon passed right through the center of the constellation Virgo (Betulah). Ouch, that is a birth, birth of the new covenant. And the full moon ends up under Virgo's feet every Passover. And the new moon does the same thing on certain Rosh Hashanah's. Due to the wobble of the Hebrew calendar (Lunar) and it's adjustments this happens intermittently. See for yourself.

https://www.fourmilab.ch/yoursky/

2 and she was with child; and she crieth out, travailing in birth, and in pain to be delivered.

The birth of America, and what country comes to mind when I mention dragon? China will be repossesing America with their troops no doubt.

Read this book, it shows the link between the Masons and Virgo, your library should have a copy.

The Secret Architecture of Our Nation's Capital: the Masons and the building of Washington D.C.
Author: Ovason, David
http://boldbookworm.com/s063011.html

19 posted on 05/10/2015 5:16:13 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (EL CHaI)
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