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Pope Francis Will Meet with LGBT Leader During July Visit to Paraguay
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Posted on 06/15/2015 9:26:59 AM PDT by ebb tide

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To: CynicalBear

>>Address the substance of the information and stop playing liberal.

Since when is it liberal to check the source? I think maybe it’s a whole lot more liberal and brain numbed to believe something without validation.


21 posted on 06/15/2015 11:37:58 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: ebb tide

The only reason to meet with them is to find out where the hottest bars are.


22 posted on 06/15/2015 11:42:22 AM PDT by all the best
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To: markomalley
>>I think maybe it’s a whole lot more liberal and brain numbed to believe something without validation.<<

Then you should have done a search like I did.

23 posted on 06/15/2015 11:46:52 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: markomalley; ebb tide; CynicalBear

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/on-trip-to-paraguay-pope-francis-will-meet-with-a-married-gay-activist/2015/06/12/81ea4fe2-113c-11e5-a0fe-dccfea4653ee_story.html


24 posted on 06/15/2015 11:56:26 AM PDT by Faith Presses On ("After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations...")
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To: Faith Presses On

And this guy is the leadership of the Catholic Church universal. His obvious support by the majority of the Bishops in that church is astounding. Yet there are those who would defend and excuse.


25 posted on 06/15/2015 12:07:26 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: markomalley
It’s at Leon Condou Stadium. Just the pope and 34,000 of his closest friends.

34,000 in what appears to be a parochial school gym?

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/52219915

26 posted on 06/15/2015 12:31:01 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Sacajaweau

The problem is that these same cardinals elected this man. Of course we don’t know by what percentage, but I’m thinking it’s pretty darn high.


27 posted on 06/15/2015 1:09:17 PM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv

Makes me wonder if Benedict stepping down wasn’t forced on him.


28 posted on 06/15/2015 1:10:47 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: FrdmLvr

The same man that has yet to condemn the gay marriage vote in Ireland?


29 posted on 06/15/2015 1:11:48 PM PDT by piusv
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To: BlatherNaut

OK, so maybe 34,000 is a bit much, but certainly a couple of thousand. The point being that it isn't a private meeting. Not even close.

The equivalent would be if I claimed to be at a private Mass with Benedict XVI back when he was in Washington DC...just because I would have had to have a ticket to get in.

30 posted on 06/15/2015 1:38:48 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

There are significantly fewer than a thousand folks in that area.


31 posted on 06/15/2015 1:43:12 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: markomalley; BlatherNaut

Would the pope’s public itinerary include private meetings? According to the public itinerary, Francis is “free” from after 10:00 mass until this civil meeting at 4:30. Who is to say he is not meeting with people privately?


32 posted on 06/15/2015 1:50:38 PM PDT by piusv
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To: markomalley

And why does it matter whether these guys were included with 1,000 other people? Why would the head of the Catholic Church include them at all?


33 posted on 06/15/2015 1:54:04 PM PDT by piusv
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To: sitetest
There are significantly fewer than a thousand folks in that area.

Look at the number of seats available. The angle that we can see is approximately 700-750 seats. That appears to be about 1/4 of the seating capacity. In the seats, we would have 2,800 - 3,000. Add another 500 for seating on the court floor itself. That brings the total to 3,300 - 3,500. Subtract the seats directly behind him (presumably they'd put up a screen) and you end up with 2,800 - 3,000.

Further subtracting some floor space for TV cameras and crews, a final number of 2,000 - 2,500 is pretty reasonable.

34 posted on 06/15/2015 1:57:28 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: piusv
Who is to say he is not meeting with people privately?

The invitation itself:

UNIVERSIDAD CATÓLICA “NUESTRA SEÑORA DE LA ASUNCIÓN”
RECTORADO

Asunción, 04 de junio del 2015.

Sr. Simon Cazal
Director Ejecutivo
SOMOSGAY

Presente

De nuestra consideración:

“Es hora de saber cómo diseñar, en una cultura que privilegie el diálogo como forma de encuentro, la búsqueda de consensos y acuerdos, pero sin separarla de la preocupación por una sociedad justa, memoriosa y sin exclusiones. El autor principal, el sujeto histórico de este proceso, es la gente y su cultura, no es una clase, una fracción, un grupo, una élite. No necesitamos un proyecto de unos pocos para unos pocos, o una minoría ilustrada o testimonial que se apropie de un sentimiento colectivo. Se trata de un acuerdo para vivir juntos, de un pacto social y cultural”. (1)

El Papa Francisco visita el Paraguay como “Mensajero de la Alegría y de la Paz” y desea compartir este mensaje en el “Encuentro con la Sociedad Paraguaya por una Cultura de la Confianza” ya que la alegría y la paz parten de la confianza mutua.

La Conferencia Episcopal Paraguaya, a través de la Comisión Organizadora de la Visita de Su Santidad el Papa Francisco, reconoce el alto impacto de su organización en la sociedad paraguaya, por lo que invita a 1 (un) representante de la misma a participar de este encuentro a realizarse en el estadio “León Condou” (Marcelino Noutz casi Avenida España - Asunción), el día sábado 11 de julio. El invitado accederá al estadio entre las 13:00 y las 14:30 hs. Adjuntamos la ficha de registro, que deberá ser devuelta por este medio hasta tres días posteriores a la recepción de esta nota. La invitación es de carácter personal e intransferible y deberá ser retirada del Seminario Metropolitano (Av. Kubitschek 661 y Azara) a partir del 1 de julio.

Contamos con la presencia del representante de su organización como contribución para que este encuentro fortalezca el desarrollo de una cultura de la confianza, que nos permita a todos los paraguayos construir un país mejor.

Reciba nuestro cordial saludo y la bendición en la paz de Nuestro Señor Jesucristo.

Pbro. Dr. Narciso Velázquez Ferreira
Rector – Universidad Católica “Nuestra Señora de la Asunción” …

(1) Papa Francisco, en la Exhortación Apostólica “Evangelii Gaudium”, sobre la anunciación del Evangelio en el mundo actual.

I had to depend upon an autotranslation of this, but it appears that a representative of his group is being invited to go to this arena. One and one only representative (they didn't specify who).

35 posted on 06/15/2015 2:03:40 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
OK, so maybe 34,000 is a bit much, but certainly a couple of thousand. The point being that it isn't a private meeting. Not even close.

From the official programme: "In the afternoon he will meet with representatives of civil society in the Leon Condou stadium of the San Jose school." (http://www.news.va/en/news/programme-of-the-popes-apostolic-trip-to-ecuador-b).

Sounds like a meet and greet in a school gym for a select group of "representatives of civil society" who have been honored by special invitation. No wonder the gay group is crowing.

36 posted on 06/15/2015 2:05:30 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: piusv
Would the pope’s public itinerary include private meetings? According to the public itinerary, Francis is “free” from after 10:00 mass until this civil meeting at 4:30. Who is to say he is not meeting with people privately?

Good point.

37 posted on 06/15/2015 2:07:26 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: ebb tide

“Your hero is bending over forwards to appease the sodomites.”

My hero is Pope Pius V. If you’re going to attack me, at least attack me for what I actually believe. Just like the anti-Catholics here you routinely make up things that no one has said and no one believes.


38 posted on 06/15/2015 2:08:23 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: piusv
Why would the head of the Catholic Church include them at all?

Please note the invitation at post #35. Apparently the organizing committee for the visit invited a representative of their organization.

Why? I don't know. Did they do so at his request? Did they do so on their own? Who knows...

I hope that he will give them a good pro traditional marriage message. Not holding my breath, but he's actually done so in the past, so hopefully he'll do so now.

39 posted on 06/15/2015 2:10:06 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: piusv; BlatherNaut; vladimir998; sitetest; ebb tide; CynicalBear
By the way, those of you who are scandalized by this really should just keep your powder dry. There will be beaucoup opportunity to be authentically scandalized in the near future. After all, he's coming to the USA in September.

I would be shocked if he doesn't do a Mass at National's Stadium in DC. You already know how the story there is going to play out. He will undoubtedly personally give Holy Communion to Stretch, Plugs, Lurch, and a wide assortment of rainbow sashers (including, I'd wager, some who sneak their sashes into the stadium just to put them on before presenting themselves for Communion).

If September is too long to wait, well, you could read his global warming encyclical to be released on Thursday...and show how he's completely broken from 2,000 years of Catholic doctrine with that document.

And if Thursday is too long, well, you could always go to his daily homilies and rip them apart. There's plenty of real material there to rip apart as well.

If your aim is to prove that Bergoglio is an anti-pope, you have plenty of material out there where he probably makes your case for you. You shouldn't need to employ calumny to make your case.

If this is such a scandal, why is there nothing discussing it on DICI, on the page of SSPV, on True Restoration, on the Remnant, or even on Rorate?

40 posted on 06/15/2015 2:37:55 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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