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To: Aliska

You wrote:

“They just quietly accepted the fear, anxiety and humility of their last days in captivity together ending in a bloody, brutal martyrdom.”

Earlier you wrote:

“Whatever their sins, they expiated them throughout their lives.”

So is it that they expiated their sins “in their last days” or “throughout their lives”?

Hey, you can believe whatever you want, but you have no evidence for what you believe and now you’re changing your story.

“Now I see in your profile you are Catholic. Maybe you think because they weren’t Catholic, they don’t deserve to go to Heaven?”

No, it just seems you have no actual evidence for your opinion and you’re now contradicting yourself.

“So your God isn’t merciful enough to forgive all that if they confessed it?”

Is this how you’re going to make up for not having evidence for your opinion?

“We don’t know what they confessed, but they did all the right things the Russian Orthodox way in the end.”

Maybe they did. Maybe they didn’t. We don’t actually know much about what they did.

“Maybe you don’t see their deaths as a martyrdom?”

They were killed because they were the royal family and hated by Communists. If they were nobodies, there’s a good chance they would not have been killed, so it seems tendentious to say this was a martyrdom for faith rather than politics.

“As punishment from a just God?”

You really seem desperate there. Perhaps you really have nothing to say that can bolster your opinion.

“Was Alexis’ hemophilia punishment from a just God?”

Was your inability to offer evidence for your claim punishment from a just God?

“How can we know these things?”

Apparently, you can’t. That apparently isn’t stopping you from saying something happened for which you have not a shred of evidence so far to offer.

And, about Swerdlow, let me help you with a link to this nut since you seem to have difficulty finding things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpO9Eghln4g


10 posted on 11/08/2015 7:26:00 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998
I knew about that video.

I had a little bit written out but accidently flushed it. Now I think you are just baiting me and anything I would come up with you would pick apart because you are being contentious for your own purposes. You interpret their lives your way, and I'll interpret them my way.

I was being somewhat sarcastic about punishment from a just God. I don't know. I have no way of knowing what is punishment and what is just random or effect from an earlier cause.

Just forget anything I posted. There is no real evidence about expiation but I still can arrive at that opinion by the study of their lives. If I'm wrong, may God correct me in a kinder manner than you have dealt with me. Too many threads on too many subjects today.

Now if you come back at me, I'm going to ignore you.

11 posted on 11/08/2015 7:48:10 PM PST by Aliska
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